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From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Odd behaviour?
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 13:41:29 +0100
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On 2024-12-05 13:26, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 05/12/2024 11:19, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2024-12-05 12:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 05/12/2024 10:34, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2024-12-05 08:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>> On 04/12/2024 18:41, Rich wrote:
>>>>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 03/12/2024 22:24, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>>>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What I find puzzling is how it appears in the GUI but isn't on the
>>>>>>>>> actual machine file system
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> funky characters in filename?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ls -la | cat -v
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope. Still no sign
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think some part of the GUI environment builds a cache, and its in
>>>>>>> that, but not in the real world so to speak
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the GUI file browser program you use under Mate?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Caja
>>>>>
>>>>>> Many "GUI file browsers" have a tendancy to "combine" plural actual
>>>>>> disk paths into the 'appearance' of a singular view (and "Desktop" is
>>>>>> one of those 'views' that GUI dev's think need this miss-feature).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it is possible the file it is located somewhere other than
>>>>>> ~/Desktop/ and the GUI is merging together that other location 
>>>>>> with the
>>>>>> contents of the actual ~/Desktop/, and presenting the combination to
>>>>>> you as "Desktop".
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm. Still doesn't say why it cant be deleted/found Even from the 
>>>>> GUI file manager
>>>>
>>>> Because it would be on another directory.
>>>>
>>> But if the GUI knows where it is the GUI should be able to delete it.
>>
>> The GUI is not a magician.
> 
> No, but it must have consistent rules. If Caja displays it Caja can 
> delete it and the same for the desktop manager as well
> 
> The fact is it is - or was - a ghost. It only existed as far as I can 
> tell in the GUI cache...

Sigh...

The GUI filemanager is just a filemanager, and follows filemanager 
rules. It displays only ONE directory, not some desktop concoction made 
of several structures and directories.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.