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Subject: Re: Has anyone heard from BTR1701 today?
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2025 13:49:50 -0500
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On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 10:20:07 -0800, suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:

>On 1/9/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
>> On 2025-01-09 11:48 AM, shawn wrote:
>>> On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 10:45:23 -0500, Rhino
>>> <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-01-09 4:49 AM, shawn wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 05:59:01 GMT, Ed Stasiak
>>>>> <user1263@newsgrouper.org.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rhino
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Given the fires that are all over LA and the fact that he hasn't 
>>>>>>> posted,
>>>>>>> it would be nice to now that he and his pets are somewhere safe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heard that the power was out in large parts of LA, both from the fires
>>>>>> damaging lines and the power company turning off lines to prevent
>>>>>> them from sparking fires.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Though I'd expect him to have a generator (unless Kalifornia finally
>>>>>> got around to banning them...).
>>>>>
>>>>> Having a generator at your home won't help if the cable/telephone
>>>>> companies equipment has been destroyed by the fires. It's so sad to
>>>>> see how spread out the fires are so they are impacting a huge number
>>>>> of people. Saw a sad video from CNN with James Woods who lost his home
>>>>> in the fires and had a 90 something neighbor who wasn't mentally all
>>>>> there who almost died in the fires. (Apparently left behind but with
>>>>> the intent to come back for him, but the fire took out the house about
>>>>> an hour after they did remove him so it could have gone so much
>>>>> worse.)
>>>>>
>>>> I saw that too. I think Woods was still in shock. What a frightening
>>>> experience for all concerned! He's a good man for having checked with
>>>> the son to determine the neighbour was at the house instead of just
>>>> assuming that the old guy was safe in the hospital.
>>>>
>>>>> Looking at different videos it seems too many people didn't realize
>>>>> how quickly the fires could spread. Which I get as even I would expect
>>>>> the fires to spread slowly but with those winds of up to 80 MPH the
>>>>> fires can spread so much faster than one would expect.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hope they gather the smartest people available and try to figure out
>>>> some ways to prevent recurrences of this kind of problem, whether that
>>>> includes creating more fire breaks around communities, trimming back
>>>> undergrowth, increasing the moisture on the plants and trees so they're
>>>> not so flammable, etc. etc.
>>>
>>> They don't need to gather anyone together as I think they've known
>>> what needs to be done for years. Cut back all the growth and the fires
>>> won't spread, but that takes a lot of money and time. Where they can't
>>> cut it back they need to kill it off but that has it's own problems.
>>> (Plant growth helps limit mud slides.)
>> 
>> Then they need to get off their asses and do what needs doing. It's that 
>> simple. If this fire isn't enough to motivate the necessary political 
>> will then I don't know what it will take.
>> 
>> I saw James Woods interviewed again today and he said there was no water 
>> in the water mains, severely limiting what the fire department could do. 
>> He understood that the reservoirs were too low but I saw a comment that 
>> the reservoirs were full so I don't know who was right. In any case, 
>> someone needs to be held to account for the water mains being empty. 
>> Lawsuits and or criminal charges - and convictions - may motivate the 
>> necessary action to clean up the forests if basic human decency and 
>> common sense don't do the trick.
>
>It's hard to hold mother nature accountable for not maintaining water in 
>reservoirs. If it's a dry year, there's no watcer to fill them.

Newsom claimed there was plenty of water but reports are water mains to
fight the fires ran dry.   Why was the fire department budget cut by 17
million dollars?   Why wasn't dry, burnable growth cut and disposed of?
Where the hell do the huge taxes go in California?  Rhetorical question.

You can't prevent the wrath of mother nature but the preparation for a
disaster like this appears to be nill.   The area was a tinderbox waiting to
erupt.