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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 20:35:28 +0000 Subject: Re: how Newsgroups: sci.math References: <qHqKnNhkFFpow5Tl3Eiz12-8JEI@jntp> <uvuuuk$1kece$3@i2pn2.org> <wj6ndzp5J9qndM6Ni-9XZdK6jyw@jntp> <v00skm$1m94c$4@i2pn2.org> <x_NkVA7tC4PbuDHgWd_lI0r3UuA@jntp> <v012ji$1m94d$4@i2pn2.org> <MhMKLiWFUW2BGqeHumLSqLhBo1I@jntp> <v06q93$1uk1v$3@i2pn2.org> <Fr-J6IVJwWMeVOUV5nUftUgP93w@jntp> <v09p60$222fd$4@i2pn2.org> <4dXo8hjS-AzHfYNb1eEKYA7PWS4@jntp> <v0boq8$2grsa$1@dont-email.me> <v0bqdi$2h1m9$1@dont-email.me> <v0bqfv$2h7fi$3@dont-email.me> <v0c7et$2jpq6$2@dont-email.me> <v0c8qe$2k633$1@dont-email.me> <v0c986$2k49h$1@dont-email.me> <v0c9bh$2k49h$2@dont-email.me> <v0cau6$2kk6u$1@dont-email.me> <FIOcnQ6wueeWW7T7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <v0e9rs$35m76$1@dont-email.me> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 13:35:29 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <v0e9rs$35m76$1@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <q0KdnRHvQZUNI7f7nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 60 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-DlWlemIvHrFtVvKUHkltPgR+tbn9m7DSpoeCm/OiqcL3CJwXPtSDEaFhgNZHiURCJnZmYmdQ0zKbw42!JMqLWkQPfFLrBGj0vtsTt4QsSdXs4Wg1EA8NjxcOAIuro/UewclmmoG79qmyrWfKCZ2He1rnPbo= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3922 On 04/25/2024 12:10 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 4/24/2024 7:55 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >> On 04/24/2024 06:16 PM, Moebius wrote: >>> Am 25.04.2024 um 02:49 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson: >>> >>>> Deeper down the rabbit hole. There is an infinity between 1 and 1.25... >>> >>> Yeah. The real numbers (and hence the complex numbers too) ARE quite >>> "deep". >>> >>> Indeed, the Mandelbrot fractal is a nice "depiction" of that fact. >>> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjZr7F_kJmw&list=PLb7rLSBiE7F5_h5sSsWDQmbNGsmm97Fy5&index=34 >> >> - >> >> You know if you read a derivation of the complex numbers, >> where it gets to defining division, there's more than >> one branch than the usual principal branch, so it sort >> makes complex numbers a bit more complex. >> >> Yet, the roots of unity can also be considered a variety of ways, >> other than complex analysis or the usual Eulerian-Gaussian analysis, >> and, "roots of zero" is quite a deal, and the identity-dimension >> is even a thing (in mathematics). >> >> > > Fwiw, check this out... We can store data in the n-ary roots of complex > numbers: > > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.c++/c/bB1wA4wvoFc/m/GdzmMd41AQAJ > > :^) It seems a sort of "arithmetic coding", or, as a sort of "addressing scheme". Then as a sort of "arithmetization", as after an "algebraization", or about and around that as algebra, arithmetic, and geometry get separate treatments while all sitting together in the numbers and geometry their algebras, then that a "geometrization" would also have that besides encoding offsets of whatever interpolated sorts in the bits of the mantissa of the complex numbers' components, that also what's true in the geometry in the diagram that is the complex plane about R^2, would also be true about the things. For example, say sometimes the alphabet is sequential, and other times, it's like some finite ring that's co-prime its modulus so like the roots ring around the roots of unity, then the various sieves down into the alphabet would have the same order. Then it's two properties at once.