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From: bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net>
Subject: Re: is my phone ON or is it OFF?
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On 4/27/24 08:23, Newyana2 wrote:
> On 4/24/2024 6:55 PM, bad sector wrote:
>> The net is full of people having issues with phones they only thought 
>> were OFF. My android Zflip is even worse that a simple conventional 
>> design. Most times I turn it OFF/ON to be sure, there being no 
>> obvious, bulletproof, always in your face, indication which should be 
>> a prerequisite.
> 
>   Frankly I don't understand all this confusion. I have an Android
> TCL Tracfone. If I press the power button it goes black but
> can receive calls. I've turned off the screen. If I hold the power
> button I get 3 options. One is to power off. I select that. It says
> it's shutting down. I can then leave the phone in my glove
> compartment for about 3 months without losing juice, and I'm
> not being tracked. If I don't power down then I am tracked and
> I think the battery lasts maybe 2 days. (I've only tried it once,
> by accident. I never leave the power on except when making a call.)
> 
>    To turn it on again I have to hold down the power button until it
> vibrates, then wait for a Win98-style boot process.
> 
>    Maybe it's different on some cellphones, or on iPhones? From the
> posts here it sounds like all Androids work the same way that mine
> does.

You may not understand it but the fact remains that there *is* a lot of 
confusion and my take on it is that the reason for the confusion is 
shitty design. There have been and continue occurring thousands of live 
mic or phone incidents EVEN with well designed idiot-proof LOW-TECH 
devices. Digital crap should have either a hard on/off switch that does 
nothing else AND an easily removable battery. My flexphone has half a 
dozen ways to be turned off and even when I will know them all by heart 
they WILL NOT suffice. Having to trust that the OS has turned the mic or 
itself off is not the answer; it's a bit like democracy where it isn't 
the right or the wrong of the issue that decides but the will of the 
user (illustration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S5q4bF6lac).


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