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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.szaf.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Test Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 10:40:40 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 58 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <qbbj7jp261nhheamplhs84ino98e73r2a1@4ax.com> References: <enoe7jts6dh6f9gl459r9t4amppcflb5r8@4ax.com> <v59ukh$g54n$1@dont-email.me> <rz2dnRCl-KS7JeX7nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> <4f069cf4-68bb-4291-9b2e-7379be61e354@gmail.com> <af4i7jl3q8isr2akru487uvbu42tlt9spd@4ax.com> <ldskriFehfdU1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="40704"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.20.32.1218 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:gtuSpY1r6gTqkAvyQociDnwGnzM= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 70412229870; Mon, 24 Jun 2024 13:40:22 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0EA22986E for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Mon, 24 Jun 2024 13:40:20 -0400 (EDT) id 2FC7D5DC68; Mon, 24 Jun 2024 17:40:46 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay-1.kamens.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EFCC5DC4B for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 24 Jun 2024 17:40:45 +0000 (UTC) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3444D5F72F for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 24 Jun 2024 17:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/3444D5F72F; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=buzz.off id BBCDDDC01A9; Mon, 24 Jun 2024 19:40:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 19:40:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/+bHyQ0xft2DNQc8M3lPxz7W33Igu203XvA3esLkFy8nqDWuoQRQD5 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 4674 On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 09:17:06 +0200, the following appeared in talk.origins, posted by Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com>: >On 2024-06-24 06:28:28 +0000, Bob Casanova said: > >> On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 17:46:13 -0700, the following appeared >> in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson >> <eastside.erik@gmail.com>: >> >>> On 6/23/24 5:04 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote: >>>> William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Bob Casanova wrote: >>>>>> Anybody there? Bueller? Bueller? >>>>>> >>>>> Yes. >>>>> >>>>> Haven't been seeing any posts lately, myself. >>>>> >>>> It has slowed down a bit since Google Groups went away and Nyikos (pbuh) >>>> left us. >>>> >>> Nyikos (pbuh, indeed) generated a lot of heat, if not so much light. >>> We've also apparently lost most if not all creationists, and ID >>> proponents are down to Ron D, if he hasn't left already. Alas. >>> >> "Alas" for "if he hasn't left", right? > >It may be that it was Ron Dean who was keeping this group alive. In the >1990s I participated in a dicussion group at which someone kept sending >idiotic posts, and a lot of the contributions from the sane >participants were stimulated by these. Eventually he left, but, as no >one expected, the group died shortly afterwards. There is a similar >story at sci.lang, much more recently, which is surviving now almost >entirely due to the efforts of one (sane) contributor, but was much >more lively a few years ago, due to the idiotic contributions of one >person. > Acknowledged. But I think a larger part of it is that Usenet itself is becoming obsolete; most people who contributed to sites such as t.o or sci.skeptic in the past have gone to following blogs in which comments, thoughtful or otherwise, are the norm. The serious "sci" sites may still be doing OK, but I have no real idea if that's the case or if they've gone to the "blogoverse" as well. Whatever, 44 years (~30 for me) is/was a good run, and communications venues *also* evolve. > -- Bob C. "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'" - Isaac Asimov