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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2024 17:48:20 +0000 From: Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: electrical deaths Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2024 12:48:19 -0500 Message-ID: <qbp3ljt5n39tqk07p3o9k98e587358d86o@4ax.com> References: <lr6ggdFmp20U2@mid.individual.net> <fk6skjdr1k0i4girjd04brb8kvbsq78ps9@4ax.com> <lr6npvFnussU1@mid.individual.net> <4hfskjlodq61l8dc82dfakqs0bv1vi7721@4ax.com> <nnd$44f3fda5$5bd09ac3@d1aad9aa35badf14> <j0fukjta5e8vlqkgli97nln66mdlremfg1@4ax.com> <lra09tF9ctsU2@mid.individual.net> <sr71ljhqs2a45f7jvf9ra1e23u65i8s5al@4ax.com> <1r42bfx.unpwey1k3hmaaN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <nlu1ljdsii25is0n3kcsrd9mm7abur1bs6@4ax.com> <vob72lx79p.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 41 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-HHsFgZ3WSe9UJUNeEySRs9iVR+CplKISbXDkqCebrspq8xCxYsz0LXeBqAW9JCjU9jqoDLoZ2rUMj6J!Kda1LobMb+LD2VWxq6cMthgrX9e0nEfCkWU5ENwMJRIfHIPiFnH48Xv32ani1d530pdHlYk= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3065 On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:21:03 +0100, "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >On 2024-12-05 02:02, Joe Gwinn wrote: >> On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:25:19 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid >> (Liz Tuddenham) wrote: >> >>> Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>> [...] >>>> >>>> Measuring winding DC resistances with probes did not work - contact >>>> resistances too large and unstable. >>> >>> Feed a constant current through the winding and then measure the >>> volt-drop with a pair of probes on the wires themselves, so that the >>> volt-drop of the terminal contact area is not included in the reading. >>> >>> That is a standard four-terminal measuring technique used for low value >>> resistance. >> >> I do have a 6.5-digit bench top digital multimeter. >> >> The problem was that I didn't have four hands, and clip leads were too >> flaky as well. All such problems were solved using the 6-bar terminal >> strip. > >How about using AC from a signal generator? I do have the equipment to that, but it wouldn't make any difference. The contact points are tiny (very low capacitance and inductance), but with a stuttering series contact resistance. This was the first time I had encountered such a black-box problem to solve. If I had to do it again, I'd do it differently. One thing would be to use a small transformer to excite the windings with 24 Vac 60Hz power, and go around measuring voltages, and so on. I developed another method that needed only electrician skills and tools, but don't recall the details. But still have my notes. Joe Gwinn