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From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
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Subject: Re: Fine Tuning Shifting
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 09:59:32 -0800
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:30:04 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:24:27 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:22:09 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 11/11/2024 7:40 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:25:51 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Let's see: September 12 to November 11 for Tom to come up with that
>>>>> nonsense. Almost two months!
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have an idea what might be going on with him?
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps Tom's internal clock is running backwards causing him to
>>>> re-live his past articles and other disasters?
>>>> 
>>>> My 2nd best guess is that Tom has his NewsHosting.com browser setup to
>>>> sort articles by something other than the date and/or has disabled
>>>> threading/grouping by subject.  The result is that articles are listed
>>>> in a jumbled order with Tom replying to whatever appears at the top
>>>> (or bottom) of the list of articles.
>>
>>>So, mere incompetence instead of mental illness? Hmm, or possibly both, 
>>>I suppose.
>>
>>I avoid getting involved in assigning the blame until after the cause
>>is identified.  It might also not be Tom's fault.  Tom is using two
>>Usenet News readers.  NewsHosting.com reader and Pan for Windoze.
>><https://www.newshosting.com/newsreader/>
>>I tried the newshosting reader for a few hours and gave up.  I don't
>>recall the exact problems that I experienced.  Pan had a very
>>different problem.  It was written for Linux and ported to Windoze by
>>someone else.  After a few releases, Windoze development ceased,
>>leaving all the bugs un-fixed while Linux development continues.
>><http://pan.rebelbase.com>
>>I've been watching the Linux version progress and I like what I see,
>>so far.  However, it will probably be years before the Linux version
>>is ready for general release:

>Errrr...  Pan dates to 1999, that is 25 years ago.

Yep:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_(newsreader)>

Last stable release was 0.160 on Aug 11, 2024
<https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/pan-announce/2024-08/msg00000.html>

>And, I might add that I've been using it for most if that time with no
>problems.

Are you currently using Pan?  I ask because your NNTP header shows an
old version of Forte Agent:
User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.10.32.1212
The most recent version is:
8.00/32.1272 which is what I'm using.

Were you using the Linux or Windows version of Pan?  For Linux, there
are multiple forks.  Is this the one you're using?
<https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pan>

If so, maybe you can remind Tom that he was once a programmer and that
maybe he should fix the code?

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