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From: Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca>
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Subject: Re: Moving a 40ft High Cube - SHELVES
Date: Fri, 09 May 2025 21:16:37 -0400
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On Fri, 9 May 2025 12:14:46 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
wrote:

>On 5/9/2025 8:48 AM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 May 2025 13:15:35 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 5/4/2025 3:40 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
>>>> A buddy of mine hauls containers from the coast and sells them locally.
>>>> He picked up 3 for a customer and after he got back with the third one
>>>> they decided they only wanted two right now.  He offered it to me
>>>> delivered for a couple hundred bucks less than the before delivery and
>>>> tax price of the local yard full of ex border wall containers.  I didn't
>>>> take advantage of my buddy.  I know what he pays for them.
>>>>
>>>> The concrete slab behind my shop is where I want it, but it was
>>>> completely full of scrap, so I had him drop it next to the slab on some
>>>> timbers (old guard rail posts) that would leave it sitting above the slab.
>>>>
>>>> I spent all day yesterday and most of the day today moving steel, old
>>>> machinery, and trash.  It even inspired me to put several large pieces
>>>> in the dumpster that I had been keeping just in case.  An old utility
>>>> trailer body, an old DeWalt industrial radial arm saw the last of the
>>>> steel bins full of stuff that came with the steel work bench John Apple
>>>> gave me.
>>>>
>>>> I thought I might be able to push the container onto the slab with my
>>>> little tractor, but that just wasn't working.  I'd push one end in and
>>>> the other would swing out.  I kind of expected that.  At about 8500 lbs
>>>> it far exceeds the 750 rated load of the tractor bucket, so lifting one
>>>> end and carrying it into place was definitely out.
>>>>
>>>> I ran a chain through the foot on the container, ran another chain
>>>> around the safety bollard (concrete filled six inch well casing) by my
>>>> rear overhead door and stuck a come-a-long in between the two chains.
>>>> Doubled up of course.  With the chains and cable anchoring one end I can
>>>> bump the other end with the tractor buck and it moves several inches.
>>>> With the tractor up against the container at that end, the tires spun
>>>> down into the dirt, the bucket dug in, and the parking brake on I can
>>>> move the end with the chains an inch or two at a stroke with the come-a-
>>>> long.  It feels like the more of the weight that is on the concrete the
>>>> easier it gets.  By that I mean it feels the same, but my arms are
>>>> getting weaker and I can still move it so...
>>>>
>>>> I've got it about half way in the slab right now.  Had to take a break
>>>> and get some water.  Well that's enough screwing around.  Back to work.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think I've settled on the ninety by twenty-four by ninety heavy duty
>>> shelves from Home Depot. With a height of ninety inches, that leaves me
>>> a little less than two feet on the top shelf to the ceiling. They aren't
>>> cheap. I was thinking five sets of shelves down each side. That's a fair
>>> amount of money. I was wrong.
>>>
>>> The shelves are capable of linking together, and they come with five
>>> shelves per set. I don't really need a bottom shelf, and I was thinking
>>> for the first 2 sets by the door I would leave out half the shelving so
>>> I could roll in a table saw, bandsaw, miter saw on a stand, et cetera.
>>> That's all stuff I don't use all that often, and when I do I prefer to
>>> use it outdoors. That means with 3 shelving sets I can easily have 5
>>> spans. I'm not even worried about stability loss from not using a bottom
>>> shelf. Linking them together adds some of that back, and if I still feel
>>> it needs more they come with tabs welded on the uprights for anchoring
>>> to a floor. I'm not crazy about drilling holes in the floor of the
>>> container, but if I have to make that compromise to get other things to
>>> come together, I will. It will leave a little 3 feet at 1 end or the
>>> other of wall space, with shelves, but I can always get a small yellow
>>> shelving unit or build one if I need more shelves.
>> 
>> Many years ago I was also looking for adjustable wire-shelf shelving,
>> and found that buying directly from industrial sources was far
>> cheaper, and yielded far better shelving.
>> 
>> Joe
>
>Can you make some suggestions on where to look?  I did quite a bit of 
>searching online including "industrial suppliers" and everything was 
>more expensive except a similar set from CostCo with one fewer set of 
>shelf hardware in each box.
>
>I can find actual industrial pallet racking from a number of sources, 
>but this intermediate heavy duty shelving not so much.  One of my goals 
>here is to be able (for atleast the first several years anyway) to walk 
>from front to back unobstructed.  With pallet racking that would only be 
>possible if I split into two much smaller men.
>
>I have built some very heavy duty shelving many times from 2x 
>construction lumber and plywood, but being joined with framing nails and 
>ring nails means its not easily reconfigurable.  At one time I was 
>making so much of it I had two framing nailers so I could swap from 
>framing to sheeting without reloading my gun.
>
>FYI:  The old Harbor Freight framing nailer will work for about 1000 
>framing nails before it blows a head gasket.  Then, it seems nothing you 
>do will keep it sealed up.  Rigid and Porter cable... no problems so far.
>
>I think for now I'll just have to settle for shelving down one side. 
>Well, at least until another big customer pays me for a big job.
>
>
>-- 
>Bob La Londe
>CNC Molds N Stuff
 2X lumber uprights with holes every 6 inches for dowels, pipes, or
rods allows you to reconfigure shelves in 6 inch intervals. You could
even set up for 3 or 4 inches instead of 6. Planks or plywood or
shelves. Cross braced, of course, to keep upright.