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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 16:19:06 +0000 From: john larkin <jlArbor.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: relay board Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 09:19:02 -0700 Message-ID: <r413ujh2qp8jmvmk4881enca212o52i3dn@4ax.com> References: <dkq2ujp05p2731bm5ctnsvfmdkhf08nfpe@4ax.com> <67e174bc$0$19$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <1bu2ujhjrgks4dr8b7ghbt7qgacq5di412@4ax.com> <67e183d1$0$16$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 42 X-Trace: sv3-BIE9cWPh4/I0/sSs5VSlFBkp/VwDXph+kR42G2W4bS6DNBVdT9DoreKDcstY/Co+xrohupA88meJEap!L8npXMZoqclPWklPqWqWJGu8MDhejv21DSuSTKPdWNj/IQ17XDOmLZ8zcm0nwaIlwR1+vjo6y9kQ!qLkc+A== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2835 On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 12:09:53 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >On 3/24/2025 11:26 AM, john larkin wrote: >> On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 11:05:32 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >> >>> On 3/24/2025 10:33 AM, john larkin wrote: >>>> >>>> Here's another PCB: >>>> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/yxqdj418jx1ttuusqqehg/P946_Relays_A11.jpg?rlkey=hxshyt4mze59k31xpnsi3bfzc&raw=1 >>>> >>>> I figured we could have a relay board in our modular power system, and >>>> my PCB layout guy had time, so I did one. >>>> >>>> Then I figured that instead of fuses to protect the contacts and PCB >>>> traces, I could use Hall sensors and drop out a relay if the current >>>> exceeds 8 amps. Then I figured I may as well report the currents to >>>> users. And why not voltage too? Then it became a programmable circuit >>>> breaker module. With average and RMS voltage and current and power >>>> measurement and waveforms. And programmable ganging. And plugin fuses >>>> for bussing. Somebody stop me. >>>> >>> >>> Better is the enemy of the good >> >> Selling more is better than selling less. >> > >With respect to hardware UIs my heuristic is that number of users who'll >use a given feature declines exponentially with the depth of the menu >dive they must go on to get to said feature We don't want complexity to drive away users, which suggests limiting or at least simplifying features. I think we'll make power metering an extra-cost option, partly for that reason. If people just want relays, I don't think the circuit breaker function will scare them off. They don't have to use it, and everybody already is used to circuit breakers.