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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 18:53:18 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
wrote:

>Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:51:06 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 3/24/2024 1:52 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>>>> Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 16:08:14 GMT, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, of course I know that now. But at the time I couldn't even find my
>>>>>>> normal MD GP and had to use Google Maps to find everything.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know how well that turned out:
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6912346811772932096/>
>>>>>> "I got a severe concussion in 2010 that led to a type of seizures that
>>>>>> I didn't remember afterwards. This wasn't discovered and treated
>>>>>> properly until 2012 after 4 car wrecks luckily without any injuries"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Flunky believed that to be funny.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree.  Methinks it's really funny how a TBI (traumatic brain
>>>>>> injury) could make you unable to understand different driver bit
>>>>>> types.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Severe concussion isn?t a diagnosis, concussion is a mild brain injury,
>>>>> which may or may not leave cognitive impairments, if so it?s diagnosed as
>>>>> Post Concussion Syndrome.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As ever these things are notoriously difficult to give prognosis ie level
>>>>> of physical injury or even the Glasgow coma Score (and similar) give only a
>>>>> broad idea of the level of cognitive impairment and thus disability.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In terms of bit types being way off the bell curve now, ie my memory is
>>>>> dreadful, I take parts with me or have the reference number or take bike to
>>>>> bike shop and say I want one of these please.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, how you were allegedly allowed to drive after wrecking
>>>>>> one car, much less after trashing 4 cars.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> It?s less the brain injury assuming no loss of consciousness as it?s mild
>>>>> that is what concussion means, I for example had to wait 6 months and the
>>>>> DVLA needed a medical report etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> but getting seizures and medication for it, which very much would be
>>>>> reportable in the UK, and absolutely no way he?d keep his license. Which
>>>>> would need to be surrender to the authorities and wait x time until no
>>>>> seizures.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can?t believe that American is any less lax in this regard.
>>>> 
>>>> That would depend largely on which part of this vast nation you live, 
>>>> but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to know that tommy wrecked 4 
>>>> cars before his license came under review, then may even have continued 
>>>> to drive after it was pulled.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> In uk the NHS has resisted efforts to force them to inform the DVLA as well
>>> doctor/patient confidentiality. As it stands it?s up to you to inform the
>>> DVLA which if one does then after x period you can start driving even
>>> before medical documentation and you have your physical license back.
>>> 
>>> If though you don?t and are discovered will quite apart from a hefty fine
>>> (potentially) will have to wait for every form (and their is multiple!) etc
>>> to be processed and your physical license back!
>>> 
>>> Roger Merriman
>> 
>> You need a doctor's permission to drive?
>
>Other way around at least personally I was advised not to drive for 6
>months and to inform the DVLA as significant head injury, and needed the
>Doctor to sign off that they didn’t have any concerns at the end of the 6
>months, other conditions and so will vary.
>
>The medical bods will not tell the DVLA but clearly if one was discovered
>to have ignored medical advice…
>
>But other medical conditions such as diabetes or epilepsy or even some
>conditions with eyes will require checks or simply such as epilepsy that
>needs to be X gap (I think a year?) after last seizure before one can drive
>and so on.
>
>Roger Merriman

I couldn't live in the UK.. or most anywhere else othrr than the USA.
It's even getting less comfortable for me in the USA.  I'm not a fan
of outside interence in my personal live.