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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 03:33:28 +0000 Subject: Re: DeepSeek helping me to clarify Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math References: <60dc21832cce54c95c37087794609710@www.novabbs.com> <4eec9365324f821e0a34bca42ca3c347@www.novabbs.com> <7e77c7e76da019bdda83169b2467e492@www.novabbs.com> <67FD57FC.12B4@ix.netcom.com> <67FD5AA5.7F8D@ix.netcom.com> <67FD5E36.79B7@ix.netcom.com> <1rastz8.7e98ih1cj00qoN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <67FD8D07.19D2@ix.netcom.com> <vtke3f$2drs$2@solani.org> <X_udnTi8ad9OXmD6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> <vtkiks$2gbh$2@solani.org> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 20:33:27 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <vtkiks$2gbh$2@solani.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <r6idneTL74UVTmD6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 113 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-UrplSsMp8TW+0z0BaZY5XYnDjn36dzi5DQZTExKZY5sHQXcvbrEDsS41olYX4YE3jW6tAXjwwGZg4Fr!Kahk7HlNvRCn6/2jaYj7xXzLgvQIM9x7USC2DuBYn3pJ8JYALxiq6Iya5xbu0DsPMdafAMQlef8= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 5531 On 04/14/2025 08:09 PM, Physfitfreak wrote: > On 4/14/25 9:26 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >> On 04/14/2025 06:51 PM, Physfitfreak wrote: >>> On 4/14/25 5:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> J. J. Lodder wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Where do you think The Constitution of the United States comes >>>>>> from??? >>>>>> >>>>>> The Roman Empire! am i wrong here? >>>>> >>>>> Yes, you are, and off-topic too, >>>>> >>>>> Jan >>>> >>>> >>>> The Founding Fathers drew inspiration from the Roman Republic, >>>> especially its emphasis on checks and balances, but adapted the model >>>> to create a unique system of government. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> U.S. Constitution is dated. Americans now get their "inspiration" from >>> Satan, not the Roman Republic. >>> >> >> Speak for yourself. >> >> Pretty much whenever I see frothy post-bait like "the end of >> the world is nigh" or "get used to it", either, it's like, >> I don't believe either of you two and furthermore I think >> it's mostly the result of a straw-man froth-farm meant to >> desensitive like a meat tenderizer, and that it most certainly >> does _not_ represent common sense and usual opinion. >> >> I was talking to this guy the other day, we met and were >> talking and he says "I'm 96 years old" and we were having >> a genial conversation and talking about what a wonderful >> world it was and better than alright then a bit about >> the politics and he says "stupid bastards" then back >> about seeing the world and having a nice day. >> >> The Founding Fathers of America after Locke and Montesqieu >> and Montaigne arrived at a bill of universal individual >> rights, if though the universal bit took a while to get >> fulfilled, vis-a-vis being Senators and Governors and such. >> >> So, that's a _great_ and important and critical aspect, >> and with what resulted the middle class, and a strong >> and educated middle class which these days is sort of >> fat and media-addicted, the Bill of Rights is a particularly >> American invention and is widely modeled around the world >> as what results human rights and these sorts things. >> >> >> The Roman Republic was a particularly innovative form >> of government itself, as after something like Polybius' >> history of it, and for Strabo or for Marcus Aurelius, >> then though that these days we've already done better. >> >> >> >> Then as with regards to mechanical inference it's sort >> of a thing as "well you can get born and have to keep >> all your bodily functions functioning and get parented >> until you reach the age of majority which is about 18 years, >> during which time your spawners are responsible for any >> your actions". >> >> >> Human years, .... >> >> >> >> So, anyways, you can talk about radicals of either ilk, >> but usual nonagenarians think they're s.b.'s. >> >> Such radicals are not natural friends of a prosperous middle class. >> >> > > > Hmm.. Good old days you might think. Not anymore! You people aren't the > Americans who developed such thoughts. > > And even they, the "founding fathers".. they sucked bad. As the dead > American Natives. The live ones too, you know, the ones that one day > will devour you. > > Problem is your species. It is your species that's outdated. > > Actually much of the Americas North and South is mestizo, and lots of Indians-with-a-feather integrated, though it's agreeable that the various cultures of the post-Deluvian saw very different arrivals at organizations of peoples. Of course the kool-aid is very palatable, or as with regards to that ideally the egalitarian ideals beat other systems of government, with regards to free-thinking and independent peoples, what the majority would be. So, you're welcome to that foul kool-aid, here we have good stuff. Or, the right stuff, as it were.