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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: connected lights
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 04:39:26 -0400
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 15:10:57 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 02:37:04 -0400, Catrike Ryder
><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 21:57:15 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 9/12/2024 8:50 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> On 9/12/2024 6:45 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>> On 9/12/2024 5:40 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 16:13:42 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Understood. Your near-default point is "Everyone's decision is 
>>>>>>> correct."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My frequent point is "You don't need to go to extremes to be safe,
>>>>>>> especially on a bike."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My frequent point is that safe is a subjective evaluation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I feel safe on a bicycle sidepath, you don't.
>>>>>
>>>>> You feel safe on a bicycle sidepath only if you've got a handgun ready 
>>>>> to draw and fire within a second or two.
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Correct. Suits his situation, in his personal evaluation.
>>>> 
>>>> As always, when seconds matter, 911 is just twenty minutes away.
>>>
>>>"His situation" is shared by many other path users. I'm betting he's the 
>>>only one so afraid as to never ride without his gun.
>>
>>Whose to say? Could very well be true on those sidepaths, where's
>>there's ususally a lot of other people around.
>
>Since I believe that Frankie brought up 9-11. Had any passenger been
>armed at least one of the flights - Flight 93 - would likely not have
>crashed.
>
>And possibly even one or more of the other 3, although the time would
>have been very close.
>
>AND I believe that armed Sky Marshals are still flying. A whole bunch
>of cowards according to Frankie's theories.

Guns are a pretty popular thing in the USA, and the laws are loosening
up to accommodate them (us). There's really not very many loonies who
are afraid of having a gun their home.

"About four-in-ten U.S. adults say they live in a household with a
gun, including 32% who say they personally own one, according to a
Center survey conducted in June 2023. These numbers are virtually
unchanged since the last time we asked this question in 2021."

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/24/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/

Also from that cite:
"About half of Americans who don’t own a gun (52%) say they could
never see themselves owning one, while nearly as many (47%) could
imagine themselves as gun owners in the future."

Poland Ohio looks to be a predominately conservative leaning
community. I wonder how many Poland residents own guns. I wonder how
many of Krygowski's bike club members own one. I wonder how many carry
one on their group rides. There are many that would easily fit in a
handlebar bag.  Knowing his fear of guns, they probably wouldn't tell
him, and if they did, he wouldn't admit it here.

--
C'est bon
Soloman