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Path: ...!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:10:12 +0000 From: Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: So Hows Dimdows-on-ARM Doing? Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:10:12 -0500 Message-ID: <re65jjlvenumbb111mf1ihgdog1gud8qf5@4ax.com> References: <vgpjhs$8iev$2@dont-email.me> <kCSdndu98PilSq36nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> <vgr7n6$iihl$1@dont-email.me> <6r92jj9p9b00e603grskrf2lcq462fecjc@4ax.com> <vgrdri$jlck$1@dont-email.me> <q3f2jj9q2fojqrk5km2m0lrs4igsmfprnq@4ax.com> <vgrev4$jlck$7@dont-email.me> <vgtan9$12joq$1@dont-email.me> <7qb4jjteg69oaae6j4flm9ilbjb9i5kgnu@4ax.com> <vgtdgf$12qjm$2@dont-email.me> <12f4jj573f0vlma8jrs7op2irotomp0g51@4ax.com> <vgu49a$17kct$3@dont-email.me> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OS: Debian 12, with Wine 9.0 for WinAPI Lines: 64 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-u1MZwVq/z1RZaAYkqIDV43gRh8RimEcrXjEGaebHfbhgttenKlEXdqhPitH/nWB/zRyBS/axDA5Lqnc!wu1Ecm447aWUR95pyInj01ZsdChVAjvIhXy0KcDHwa4ImxCaSGe48wSrGeMoCxNxY1OXCpJv X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4243 DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote: >>>> your claim that Win13 will be great on my current 10th >>>> gen i5, totally "rational", dumbass. >>> >>> I never said 'great'. Quit lying. >> >> Oh did I misquote you, sir, you only meant I could boot it and suffer >> with it, like Win10 20H2 on my first gen i5, I had previously? Heh. > >What's your definition of 'suffer'? Looks, speed, ease of >administration and configuration, open vs closed source? I'm not just saying it to say it - there were multiple, fatal problems with 20H2 on the old machine. I couldn't even keep it on when I went to bed, because of the racing fan, trying to keep up with M$ stealing CPU cycles, which on that chip was draining. On a *timed schedule*, I kid you not, the system would blue screen, about every three days, always the same mysterious bug-check code, something about memory not available yet even going to 16 GB didn't fix it. It was a *FUCKING DISASTER*. The very same OS I first installed on the new machine, on which is was a dream. Meanwhile, the old computer had four times the cores, 2.8 times the minimum clock speed, and four and then eight times the minimum RAM. M$ turned Win10 into a beta of Win11, and eventually those builds were the only supported ones. They *lie* about system requirements. >Right now go ahead and, under whatever distro you've recently hopped to, >time a bunch of computing operations that are important to you: startup, >shutdown, reboot, file copy, file delete, file find, open large text >file, open large .pdf, open large image file, app install, app delete, >app launch, etc, whatever. Save the data in a file. > >Years from now (might be 5-6 or more) you'll be resurrecting that file >when you install Win13 on your current hardware. Then time the same ops >under Win13 on the same hardware. I 100% guarantee you won't come close >to 'suffering' (by any reasonable definition) with the speed and >efficiency of Win13 compared to whatever Linux distro you're running now. > >Don't sell that hardware, you heah? It'd be an interesting experiment, but it's not about benchmarks of apps, it's about the OS even functioning in a basic, correct way. This is why Linux is going to gain more and more. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.