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Path: ...!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:32:43 +0000 From: john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,uk.d-i-y Subject: Re: OT: EV Charging Stations Stripped of Copper Cables Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:32:44 -0700 Message-ID: <rf9u8jh9anq08pcgr3ommovhtp2para8h8@4ax.com> References: <v64kvk$2cc3j$2@dont-email.me> <v6ffko$ii8v$1@dont-email.me> <v6hfnm$10h93$2@dont-email.me> <v6icsb$18bnm$1@dont-email.me> <v6ivke$1b3ak$1@dont-email.me> <iufq8jhjsia1qdm4pt2vgrovkhrpt8nj8u@4ax.com> <v6mfov$20818$3@dont-email.me> <6tht8j9kcaomraffha67s0ih4qeesl8hj6@4ax.com> <v6n40v$20818$7@dont-email.me> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 88 X-Trace: sv3-Vvto9toKIdudh4poZ8nQ7r6WXsdoIGkhaQZsBgZwSmXltizwBCZw26vF3BHuwI6OQLRJqwTyLiylGPu!ommF2G/ajIy0bHX+c83y5hMH7CQ0jfQDvIy8VKpk3FShaod9hwGDuhShdlsYem/lDjLVRmLhi8eo!uVz7Lg== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 5080 On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:04:00 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote: >On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 10:48:09 -0700, john larkin wrote: > >> On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:18:23 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom >> <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 09 Jul 2024 06:52:49 -0700, john larkin wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 09:24:30 -0000 (UTC), RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On 9 Jul 2024 at 05:04:24 BST, Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> From time to time I get to remind the qroup that I'm a democratic >>>>>> socialist - while Communists are autocratic socialists, >>>>>> and got slung out of the International Socialist movements in 1871, >>>>>> when Karl Marx's silly ideas about "the leading role" of the party >>>>>> were rejected. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>Very kind of you! But a small point - the CP was, theoretically, a >>>>>socialist bridge to communism. Nobody - especially Marx - know what >>>>>communism would be in detail - simply that the process of >>>>>revolutionary socialism would put an end to capitalism for the right >>>>>reasons. >>>>> >>>>>> Mikhail Bakunin's famous quote dates from that period >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/801264-if-you-took-the-most-ardent- >>>revolutionary-vested-him-in >>>>> >>>>>So history might suggest :-) >>>> >>>> In other words, power corrupts. >>>> >>>> Which means that governments are dynamically unstable, and a >>>> long-term-democratic society is a remarkable thing. >>>> >>>> Why end "capitalism"? Economic and intellectual plualism works. >>> >>>So does a mixed economy of both private enterprise and publicly-owned >>>bodies if the size of the state sector can be constrained. >>>Unfortunately, >>>states have a tendency to grow themselves if not kept in strict check >>>and this is in large part responsible for the truly *vast* debt burden >>>now carried on the back of so many Western countries. >> >> There's a race between government getting bigger and wasting ever more >> resources, and technology making us more productive to support all that >> waste. >> >> I was just talking to a fellow old fogey (who is literally a Fellow) and >> we agree that young people are getting stupider, so the productivity >> increase probably can't keep up. > >Well, to be fair, that phenomenon is confined to the West and is due to >the dogmatic insistence of Leftists that all are equal and must be >educated accordingly. So the classes grind away at the speed of the >slowest ship in the convoy ("no child left behind" - George Bush Jr - >RINO). The brighter children in the class are thus dumbed down at best (at >worst, switch off altogether and start sniffing glue) and grade inflation >is employed to fudge the facts and make it appear that everything's fine >when it most assuredly isn't. This is definitely NOT happening in >countries like China and that is why they're kicking our arses and have >been for some time. > A bigger problem is kids getting bogus degrees, like film-making and sociology and journalism and comparative literature and music theory. Even "computer science" can be useless. I think some people are realizing that they should not borrow a fortune to attend college but be apprentices in a trade, and actually get a job. >> Yes, the debt will have consequences too. It keeps increasing and can >> never be paid back. Economists keep getting stupider too. > >"Top economists" are no different from the "top climate scientists" - >they're paid handsomely for parroting whatever the Globalists at the WEF >tell them. Given a graph of usefulness vs expertise, some fields have a peak pretty soon and then drop off.