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From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Machine Shop
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2025 12:36:11 -0800
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On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 20:04:15 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Fri Nov 8 13:54:21 2024 Zen Cycle  wrote:
>> On 11/8/2024 12:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>> >
>> > No company could survive you and a boss that spots you not working and does say anything about it.
>> 
>> Who ever said my boss caught me not working?

>You did asshole - you said that you were watching baseball and your boss came around and asked what the score was - not that he asked why you weren't working. I never worked one job where a boss didn't demand full attention to your job.

Having the boss monitor you with a stopwatch is characteristic of a
job where you are paid by the millisecond.  That sometimes works with
hourly employees.  However, it doesn't apply to salaried professional
or exempt employees who are more commonly paid by the job and not by
the millisecond:
<https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/exempt-employee.asp>
If you "never worked one job where a boss didn't demand full
attention", you were likely NOT receiving a salary and working as an
exempt employee, professional, manager, executive, or consultant.

I also find it odd the you wrote "a boss" instead of "my boss" or "my
manager".  Hourly employees might have one of more managers.  Salaried
professionals usually have a single manager, even if you worked for a
committee.

At one company, the chief engineer would walk around the lab and
remark "am I paying you for this" if he saw anyone doing something he
considered not job related.  Eventually, he was asked by the other
managers to stop doing that because it was highly disruptive and
usually resulted in work coming to a screeching halt.


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