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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: BOLO pervert cyclist Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2024 06:26:36 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 65 Message-ID: <rkuqdjdtq8b0e6fjspblnontscrgv5c9p0@4ax.com> References: <vbf1g1$r1ti$1@dont-email.me> <v26ndj5b4038brf60dhms4jqluln99fcq0@4ax.com> <vbga1p$10phu$6@dont-email.me> <5sindjpqbq0lks6kn3but34lsisqsf0ooo@4ax.com> <vbhq2m$1dkbr$1@dont-email.me> <vbhqdj$1dnp0$2@dont-email.me> <vbi2vi$1ev12$1@dont-email.me> <h9tpdj5rb1pkdq4mn4stg17jps7br03qkt@4ax.com> <vbj38n$1pico$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2024 12:26:41 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="23d9e1327a130d255c16c4d791b04d4b"; logging-data="1999897"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX199rM3b79nDZ6/LAuaUe7tqoGswMfQWCw4=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:PcAsrbFVXtMsj+mfRYCBrN2z6AU= Bytes: 4038 On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:47:51 -0400, Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >On 9/7/2024 9:03 PM, John B. wrote: >> On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:36:49 -0400, Frank Krygowski >> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> On 9/7/2024 11:10 AM, AMuzi wrote: >>>> On 9/7/2024 10:04 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Auto crash fatalities are a regrettable side effect of the use of cars >>>>> for transportation. And cars are so beneficial for transportation that >>>>> American society would cease to function if cars could not be used. >>>>> >>>>> Mass murders in schools are a regrettable side effect of the worship >>>>> of guns, especially AR-style rifles, the weapon of choice for such >>>>> murders. And I'll note that you have _still_ never managed to state a >>>>> practical societal benefit of ARs in public possession. >>>>> >>>>> Unlike cars, if ARs could not be used, America would be better off by >>>>> far. Just the tax savings from not having to "harden" public schools >>>>> would be worth the change. >>>>> >>>>> Or to summarize yet again: Benefits vs. detriments, John! A concept >>>>> that absolutely baffles you! >>>>> >>>> >>>> By that logic, are fatal car crashes by Ford Fiesta or Prius drivers >>>> less tragic than those by scary black pickups? >>> >>> We could certainly talk about advantages vs. disadvantages of huge >>> pickup trucks and other similar vehicles. Books have been written on >>> that topic. >> >> Like >> https://www.truckaddons.com/pros-and-cons-of-owning-a-pickup/ >> >> Notice I provide a reference, you don't. > >https://slate.com/business/2022/02/suvs-pickups-heavy-huge-deadly-dont-buy-em.html > >or >https://reason.com/2024/02/02/why-are-pickup-trucks-ridiculously-huge-blame-government/ > >"... critics aren't entirely wrong to point out the ill effects of >mega-truck proliferation—or the oddity of using a 6,500-pound, >22-foot-long vehicle mainly as a grocery-getter. Pedestrian deaths have >reached 40-year highs and the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety >research shows that as trucks and SUVs have gotten taller and heavier, >they likewise have posed greater risks to those outside the vehicle." > >I have no problem with compact pickup trucks, just as I have no problem >with what were always considered normal and legitimate hunting rifles. >But bloated, oversized modern pickup trucks are a close parallel to >AR-style guns. They are bought mostly to raise the owners' testosterone >level, by providing capabilities that are essentially never needed. And >the detriments are externalities, imposed on others who get none of the >minuscule benefits. I susppect that way down deep Krygowski is jealous of the people who drive big pickup trucks... -- C'est bon Soloman