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From: Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Photos (Jpg, Png-viewer) --- i don't like it because it launches sluggishly...
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 09:59:35 -0400
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On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 08:04:44 -0000 (UTC), Antonio Marques
<no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 21:47:38 -0600, Tilde <invalide@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Tony Cooper wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 15:19:17 -0700, HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb>
>>>>> There is a  (Windows) tool called  Photos (Jpg, Png-viewer)  --- i don't
>>>>> like it
>>>>> because it launches  sluggishly....
>>>>> 
>>>>> Esp. in the last 5 days or so, i'm noticing that almost every day
>>>>> i have to go to Properties to  change it back to
>>>>> my fav. Jpg, Png-viewer tool
>>>>> 
>>>>> because the Windows update (?) is  pushing  Photos  on me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> is there a Fix for this???
>>>> 
>>>> I have thousands of images from .jpgs to .pngs on my computer.  I use
>>>> the (free) FastStone Photo Viewer.  It's not only a great image
>>>> viewer, but offers many other options from selecting by tagged images
>>>> to bulk re-naming.  It's set as my default viewer.
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.faststone.org/
>>> 
>>> https://www.irfanview.com/
>> 
>> I have both Faststone and Irfanview, and I like Faststone better. 
>> 
>> What I remember last using Irfanview for was when I wanted
>> to change the default orientation of some pictures that were
>> usually wrong (downloaded from my off-brand phone). 
>> 
>> IIRC, Faststone would rotate them okay for PC display by Faststone, 
>> but they would be wrong when uploaded to Face Book. 
>
>Opening and saving a lossy format like jpg will usually result in... loss
>of quality. For the specific purpose of rotating by multiples of 90°, it's
>usually possible to do it losslessly, by just, well, rotating the encoded
>data (rather than. decoding, rotating, and reencoding). There may also be
>the possibility of specifying in the preamble what orientation the data
>has, and maybe this is what solved the issue for one program but not for
>fb, that paragon of quality software (maybe it just assumes the data
>orientation rather than reading it from the file).
>
>Anyway, I don't know if your faststone has lossless rotation, maybe it
>does. If not, there's a few utilities that can do it. AnnyStudio JPEG
>Lossless Rotator seems to be one such.
>


Most sources state that .jpgs start to noticeably degrade only after
about 10 open/saves.