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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Climate Change Denialism in SF Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 21:59:41 -0800 Organization: home user Lines: 40 Message-ID: <robertaw-A7CB55.21594107122024@news.individual.net> References: <robertaw-ED1870.21583806122024@news.individual.net> <vj25aj$4nd$1@reader2.panix.com> X-Trace: individual.net Q9HN8c1V6MNuyppzv/LepAsvqvu22VjaFtLQ5IyJrseiIxP7MX X-Orig-Path: robertaw Cancel-Lock: sha1:8QfccxuEBLztZuSRltkga2tnUy0= sha256:8YCxyoDr0fo75zOd2Ha2kEsSxJhCY0OUSTzR27rB7B8= User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (Intel Mac OS X) Bytes: 2806 In article <vj25aj$4nd$1@reader2.panix.com>, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote: > In article <robertaw-ED1870.21583806122024@news.individual.net>, > Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote: > >I know of one book, _The Last Centurion_ by John Ringo (published in > >2008). There are probably others. What is really odd about _tLC_, is > >that there was a pandemic starting, IIRC, in 2019 (a really nasty one - > >world fatalities, IMS, exceeded 1 billion). Oh, yes, the US presidential > >administration flubbed the response, big time (I believe the president > >was a "Hillary Clinton" pastiche). There was significant turmoil over > >the 2020 Presidential election as well. > > Camestros Felapton looked for Contrarian Cli-Fi in 2022 and found > surprisingly few examples, of which the Ringo was one. Another was > Pournelle, Niven, and Flynn's dire Fallen Angels, which judging > by the frequency with which people mentioned it in the comments to > relevant essays of mine on Tor Dot Com/Reactor is by far the > better known of the two. Crichton's State of Fear was a third > (and I have not read it). > It was my impression that _Fallen Angels_ was the result of a successful attempt to significantly reduce CO2 emissions. If that is so, I wouldn't consider it to be ACC denialism at all. > Otherwise, esp if one leaves off pre-1990 examples, CCF is a weirdly > undersupplied genre, at least from major publishers. Lots of authors > loudly proclaim their skepticism but it does not seem to percolate > into their fiction. OTH, there were stories, even back in the 1970s where the sea level had risen over 100 feet (e.g., "Manhattan Reef" appears in "Starships in Whose Future?" - Analog, August 1978). -- "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement." Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. ‹----------------------------------------------------- Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com