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From: Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Climate Change Denialism in SF
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 21:59:41 -0800
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In article <vj25aj$4nd$1@reader2.panix.com>,
 jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:

> In article <robertaw-ED1870.21583806122024@news.individual.net>,
> Robert Woodward  <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
> >I know of one book, _The Last Centurion_ by John Ringo (published in 
> >2008). There are probably others. What is really odd about _tLC_, is 
> >that there was a pandemic starting, IIRC, in 2019 (a really nasty one - 
> >world fatalities, IMS, exceeded 1 billion). Oh, yes, the US presidential 
> >administration flubbed the response, big time (I believe the president 
> >was a "Hillary Clinton" pastiche). There was significant turmoil over 
> >the 2020 Presidential election as well.
> 
> Camestros Felapton looked for Contrarian Cli-Fi in 2022 and found 
> surprisingly few examples, of which the Ringo was one. Another was
> Pournelle, Niven, and Flynn's dire Fallen Angels, which judging
> by the frequency with which people mentioned it in the comments to
> relevant essays of mine on Tor Dot Com/Reactor is by far the 
> better known of the two. Crichton's State of Fear was a third
> (and I have not read it). 
> 

It was my impression that _Fallen Angels_ was the result of a successful 
attempt to significantly reduce CO2 emissions. If that is so, I wouldn't 
consider it to be ACC denialism at all.

> Otherwise, esp if one leaves off pre-1990 examples, CCF is a weirdly
> undersupplied genre, at least from major publishers. Lots of authors
> loudly proclaim their skepticism but it does not seem to percolate
> into their fiction.  

OTH, there were stories, even back in the 1970s where the sea level had 
risen over 100 feet (e.g., "Manhattan Reef" appears in "Starships in 
Whose Future?" - Analog, August 1978).

-- 
"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
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Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com