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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 21:52:02 -0700 Organization: home user Lines: 54 Message-ID: <robertaw-D3EBEB.21520117062024@news.individual.net> References: <v3g329$2vhcs$1@dont-email.me> <lc1hq0F9p6tU1@mid.individual.net> <0001HW.2C0BDD05000713EB7000090E038F@news.supernews.com> <v4k3d5$3fg9u$1@dont-email.me> <ld5kflFu232U1@mid.individual.net> <robertaw-8D53D0.10034615062024@news.individual.net> <v4kj0l$3ifm5$1@dont-email.me> <robertaw-8563C7.09480816062024@news.individual.net> <v4o33o$ab71$1@dont-email.me> <v4qd77$v30v$1@dont-email.me> <v4qjko$10658$1@dont-email.me> <v4qmh1$10mc5$1@dont-email.me> X-Trace: individual.net LUI06dYSp+RIoTCrSLS05wMQeDPGca69XrWD/GA/W2vAA3g1xs X-Orig-Path: robertaw Cancel-Lock: sha1:DS6EUWEGy1DvcAurnjIqdeIhh+c= sha256:hfkgeuBai/5i3h2Y7qvvOUO4fa4jIIQZtYIhjjCt900= User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (Intel Mac OS X) Bytes: 2951 In article <v4qmh1$10mc5$1@dont-email.me>, William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote: > Lynn McGuire wrote: > > On 6/17/2024 5:26 PM, William Hyde wrote: > >> Lynn McGuire wrote: > >>> On 6/16/2024 11:48 AM, Robert Woodward wrote: > >> . > >>> > >>> The single trigger event is when George Washington exiled the 120,000 > >>> Loyalists to South Africa instead of Canada after the USA > >>> Revolutionary war. > >>> <Snip> > >> But the vast majority of loyalists stayed behind, and played a role in > >> the politics of the new nation. The last laws against former > >> loyalists were repealed a few years after the war, though local > >> prejudice lasted much longer. > >> > >> And Canada certainly did not receive 100k of loyalist immigrants. > >> > >> > I had no idea that this really happened in the late 1700s. > >> > >> Not mentioned in high school history? > >> > >> William Hyde > > > > https://www.britannica.com/topic/loyalist > > <Snip> > > But we didn't get 100k. After all, if you are a loyalist from Georgia, > do you really want to grow turnips in Upper Canada, or sugar in Jamaica? > And if you're a urban type from NY, do you chose Montreal or London? > > When I was a kid there were still people who added "UE" to their names > as descendants of the loyalists. It's been a long while since I've seen > that, though. > My paternal grandmother denied it, but my late father believed that she had Loyalist ancestors because she had ancestors born in the regions of Canada that had Loyalist settlements (IIRC, initially settled by Loyalists). -- "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement." Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. —----------------------------------------------------- Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com