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Path: ...!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 23:14:48 +0000 From: ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) Subject: Re: Alternative to Optical Storage???? Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <pan$c6999$ff62655a$6baa28da$29b62529@linux.rocks> <vd6qet$qfrm$1@dont-email.me> <pan$dba71$c1b97dec$fa2a4050$1a13e837@linux.rocks> <vda07i$1dvkl$1@dont-email.me> User-Agent: tin/2.6.2-20221225 ("Pittyvaich") (Linux/6.10.7-100.fc39.x86_64 (x86_64)) Message-ID: <rsCcnV_yyP51EGX7nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@earthlink.com> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 23:14:48 +0000 Lines: 52 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.180.143.226 X-Trace: sv3-qKgYVjeuMlyeXqRxSyEP3WYRNeHFFBPZ7rylmqlx9XsjSMPQC7KgRcJGnEdEMThMUIerRgkZYqSGdfh!9T0yppNB3R4Au0poc6XVLC4OYVzh4j3VAzeIX4wS0BNuUiz9xHdSdR+XAz4oGY1lCfRm4wmumTNN!AC8wR8keY/AXDQTBolcjYOdFFHHZGLTk X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3599 In comp.os.linux.misc Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> wrote: > On 27/09/2024 13:26, Nux Vomica wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 17:36:29 -0000 (UTC), Rich wrote: > > > >> > >> Having personally experienced failures of both cd-r and dvd-r media > >> wherein the recorded media became unreadable in a very short timeframe > >> (only a few years) even with proper storage it is not at all irrational > >> to be skeptical of claims of significant lifetimes for optical media > >> (esp. the user recordable type, pressed disks are a different matter). > >> Existing user recordable optical systems have, so far, had a poor track > >> record, so any new system has a higher bar to get over before it is > >> trusted for any long-term archive use. > >> > > > > My experience is far different from yours. > > > > I have optical disks that I made in 2008 that are still quite > > viable, and an associate of mine burned disks back in the 1990's > > that are still readable with no errors. (Both cases using GNU/Linux) > > > > Possibly you had selected the inexpensive, "bargain basement" > > brands of cd-r/dvd-r which may have much shorter lives. > > > > Also, are you sure that the "r" designation is not actually "rw" > > for re-writable disks? The re-writable variety are known to to > > degrade much more rapidly. > > > > I always purchased Taiyo Yuden DVD's which have an excellent > > reputation for longevity, but since DVDs have a small capacity > > I now only use M-Disc bdr. > > > > I am not a professional archivist but I know that libraries > > and other institutions choose optical storage as a primary archival > > medium. > > > > Of course, one must always be mindful of future technology. > > The strategy is to always copy important data to improved > > formats but, so far, with optical media, this is not necessary > > yet. > +1 for M-Disc BDR. I use the 100GB version. Aren't they slow? Burning DVDs and CDs take forever! :( -- "So Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him." --Hebrews 9:28. Unlimity slammy colony Friday. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org. / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail. | |o o| | \ _ / ( )