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On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 02:24:48 -0700, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 04:26:21 -0400, Catrike Ryder
><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 7 Jun 2025 23:04:27 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 6/7/2025 9:38 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> On 6/7/2025 7:51 AM, Shadow wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 14:52:45 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 14:33:05 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/6/2025 11:35 AM, Shadow wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Florida had one of the worse deaths/million population  among
>>>>>>>> all American states(I'm excluding the blible belt states, because
>>>>>>>> praying actually increases death rates among practically all
>>>>>>>> diseases).
>>>>>>>>     They should have voted for someone more capable of leading the
>>>>>>>> state.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/political-party-affiliation- 
>>>>>>> linked-excess-covid-deaths
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CIDRAP???
>>>>>
>>>>>     No, the source is JAMA. Cidrap is just relaying the
>>>>> information.
>>>>>     JAMA is not political, if anything it tends to the right....
>>>>>     []'s
>>>>>
>>>>>> Krygowski apparently believes everything he runs into that
>>>>>> supports his agenda.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "JAMA is not political, if anything it tends to the right."
>>>> 
>>>> That's hilarious!
>>>> 
>>>> For at least 50 years AMA has been proudly hard left, reflecting its 
>>>> members' positions (which they ought to reflect).  Which is exactly why 
>>>> neither my MD brother nor 85% of US licensed MDs belong to AMA.
>>>> 
>>>> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3153537/
>>>
>>>One statement from that article seems to say otherwise: "The AMA’s 
>>>backing of US President Barack Obama’s health care legislation did not 
>>>sit well with many physicians and may have cost it some members."
>>>
>>>IOW those members were not hard left.
>>>
>>>FWIW: One of my music friends was a professor at a medical school, and 
>>>neuroscience researcher, until he retired. In one long conversation, he 
>>>bemoaned the fact that his students' characteristics had changed greatly 
>>>over his career. He said that at the start, the typical student actually 
>>>was motivated by wanting to help people (as was the physician among my 
>>>siblings). But he complained that more recently, students were far less 
>>>altruistically motivated, and far less intellectually or professionally 
>>>curious. Instead of wanting to learn all they could to best help 
>>>patients, they wanted to learn what would be "on the test," and what 
>>>would allow them to work towards the highest paying specialty fields.
>>>
>>>Yes, it's an anecdote, and second hand. But for many decades, physicians 
>>>did no drive super-expensive cars or live in mega-mansions, as so many 
>>>do today. Doctors pulling in many hundreds of thousands of dollars per 
>>>year probably see no reason to belong to the AMA at all. And they'd hate 
>>>to have any government agency lowering the costs of health care.
>>
>>Likely, another of Krygowski's imaginary conversations with people,
>>who me a , agree with his opinions.
>
>Back in my younger days a Buick was termed a "doctor's car" not
>because a doctor couldn't afford a Cadillac but because if he drove
>the more expensive car his bills would be thought too high. Better, by
>far to keep the billing rate, drive the Buick, and buy a new one each
>year :-)
>			

That's my remembrance, too

--
C'est bon
Soloman