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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: cyclists attack auto driver Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 05:23:32 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 115 Message-ID: <s3o8cjdesesc2mgr60t2t9rdjqrv12m2l8@4ax.com> References: <v9ot76$1kbqe$3@dont-email.me> <v9p1b4$1kr20$4@dont-email.me> <r7m2cjtbv5ukduqa852b1o87o9pfh97o8n@4ax.com> <v9tf33$2fm0s$4@dont-email.me> <4pk4cjh6lokkmah8hu0dfqu0gq99akff7l@4ax.com> <v9u4bv$2is2s$3@dont-email.me> <nns5cjhvfa23vbjhongnv94u0bs1ags6tl@4ax.com> <gj06cj1kimofmc8u9kt250diqmchn1pf2d@4ax.com> <v9voo7$2tip9$4@dont-email.me> <omp6cj9hm1c9bh8l5a9dee0ps37siiqoa0@4ax.com> <bhn7cjldbqvv58f67m3pbo1fcvjdbphser@4ax.com> <va0tks$3793q$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 11:23:34 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="493c667bbe4bdf64573c50d8816aac71"; logging-data="3509263"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Qwvc333hBgqP455fT0O7yTuDIdCDMVik=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:9+IjwcjxaaXcWAS+Ehr+RqBYgKc= Bytes: 6470 On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 22:05:15 -0400, Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >On 8/19/2024 8:50 PM, John B. wrote: >> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 11:46:24 -0400, Catrike Ryder >> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 11:35:34 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 8/19/2024 6:27 AM, John B. wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 03:42:14 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 20:41:35 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/18/2024 4:19 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:38:26 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 8/17/2024 11:37 PM, John B. wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But as I've mentioned a number of times my family has had guns for at >>>>>>>>>> least 4 generations, as close as I can calculate 300 years or so, and >>>>>>>>>> never shot anyone. Why does Frankie want to penalize us? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My bet is that your family had guns for hunting and pest control. My bet >>>>>>>>> is also that your family never owned a gun that could fire more than, >>>>>>>>> say, six rounds in a minute. After all, that capability is essentially >>>>>>>>> useless for almost all hunting. But it is "useful" if you intend to kill >>>>>>>>> a roomful of kids, or church attendees. That is the gun style's >>>>>>>>> significant detriment. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As you _should_ be able to remember, I'm firmly in favor of hunting. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's nonsense. My dad's old Winchester model 69 (1930s) had an eight >>>>>>>> round mag. My Colt Woodsman had a ten round mag. That didn't count the >>>>>>>> one in the pipe. Counting that, put all the Wichester model 94s at 7 >>>>>>>> rds. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know those guns exist. >>>>>> >>>>>> No you don't. You never heard of them until I mentioned them. >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm betting John's family didn't have them. >>>>>> >>>>>> You obviously have no idea how many hunters have had a Winchester 94. >>>>>> I had one years ago. The one I had was a carbine and only had a 6 rd >>>>>> mag. The model 94 rifle produced today has an 8 rd mag. The 94 stands >>>>>> for 1894, by the way. >>>>>> >>>>>>> And >>>>>>> while I may be wrong, it's certain that the earliest family members he >>>>>>> bragged about did not have them, but probably still hunted successfully. >>>>>>> A competent hunter doesn't need even six quick shots. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <LOL> As if you'd know anything about competent hunting. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I really can't figure where Frankie is gets his ideas and I can only >>>>> assume that like Tom, just makes then up. >>>>> >>>>> Above he writes, "also that your family never owned a gun that could >>>>> fire more than, say, six rounds in a minute." >>>>> >>>>> As I've said a number of times my father had a hunting rifle built on >>>>> a Springfield army rifle base. 5 round magazine and one up the spout >>>>> is 6 and I could, with no problems at all fire 6 rounds in a minute >>>>> and if you want to talk about pistols I'm sure that you can fire your >>>>> Colt Woodman even faster. >>> >>> I could probably get all 11 rds off in a couple of seconds, but I >>> don't think I ever tried. Walking through the gardens, pastures and >>> cornfields shooting gophers, it was handy not having to stop and >>> reload. >>> >>>> Ah, John! First, please note that I said "MORE than 6 rounds in a >>>> minute." You gave _one_ example of _one_ gun your father had, but it did >>>> not shoot _more_ than 6 in a minute. So, thanks for confirming my guess! >>>> >>>> And as I said, that capability is essentially useless for hunting. I'm >>>> betting you (or your father) never blasted six quick shots at an animal >>>> while hunting with that rifle. >>> >>> Krygowski dishonest strawman alert. >>> >>>> You could, of course, tell us some of your hunting tales, and let us >>>> know details of how you actually _used_ those guns. But I suspect you >>>> won't, because they'll describe one or two careful shots, not a rapid >>>> blast of shooting. >>> >>> Another Krygowski dishonest strawman alert. >> >> Note that Frankie says "You gave _one_ example of _one_ gun your >> father had, but it did not shoot _more_ than 6 in a minute." >> >> While I actually wrote, "I could, with no problems at all fire 6 >> rounds in a minute". > >Good grief. Do you not understand the meaning of "more than"? That was >the phrase I used. > >> >> And then he goes on to ignore the British army reference... > >Because I was talking about the guns _your family_ owned. How can you be >so confused about the matter under discussion? And again, firing that >many rounds that fast is useless in any normal hunting situation. > >Since you're talking about your family's hunting gun use, why not tell >us how many times you shot six rounds within a minute to kill game? Another Krygowski strawman....