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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Job Offer Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 18:51:34 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 52 Message-ID: <s4rrtj52o5vovchne5bi1t59u296fdrq0u@4ax.com> References: <upbktj518tbh7ocm5ps5pilqj7e2c14qqs@4ax.com> <910ltj9jgvhvl3bes771hlvsp44d8pkj7s@4ax.com> <f2qltj9j8dqgdbqbt0ipmq6sfb451meajf@4ax.com> <vrhq49$3mn4h$5@dont-email.me> <eototjl6idt4t1hatvonr3v203n542mgiq@4ax.com> <vriq6q$m12j$3@dont-email.me> <vrjmoa$1hv8v$2@dont-email.me> <vrk741$1v95c$3@dont-email.me> <nkertjle6lpg4hfd5h2c9gaj7tcmtd43sk@4ax.com> <vrkeld$1t8rg$7@dont-email.me> <vrki6a$29v7h$3@dont-email.me> <vrkjd8$1t8rg$8@dont-email.me> <vrkpgi$2e44u$5@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 23:51:36 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="27c4f5ac96ab9ed8d2ec024cbfbadb2e"; logging-data="2675262"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19OtkYyMp5/XU4Dp8llTdNgHlrbRN7Y2jo=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:fRUlGyLbJJlaGJwmXTTDRS0xXpE= Bytes: 3700 On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 18:33:53 -0400, Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >On 3/21/2025 4:49 PM, AMuzi wrote: >> >> People (me) who worked two jobs to pay tuition at retail in cash were >> miffed at least. > >I'm sorry you felt bad. It didn't bother me, and I did work my way >through college. (Well, Bachelor's degree, anyway. The school paid me to >get my Master's.) > >I'm reminded of a pretty close parallel in the Bible: Matthew 20: 1–16 > >You and I got what we paid for, just as Matthew's early workers got what >they expected to be paid. No skin off either set of noses if those >arriving later got a better deal. > >Since your and my time in college, the cost of a college education has >skyrocketed unreasonably. Based on my experience in the field, I'd say >there are two main reasons: Tremendous increases in administration >overhead (far exceeding any increase in faculty salaries & benefits; and >greatly reduced support from the government. I think ridiculously >luxurious physical facilities are another factor, but a minor one. > >Because of that now obscene expense, students need support one way or >another. > >Should the government support higher education? I think it's a very wise >investment, especially in fields that contribute to the industrial base >- although I also support much of the funding for the pure sciences, >for arts, for fields like history, psychology, etc. Society is better if >people are educated. Political decisions tend to be better if those in >charge have decent knowledge of history. Industry does better if it's >staffed by people with actual education and training, not by Kunich clones. > >When the state of Ohio was founded, support for education was recognized >as a wise move. The state's founders preferred education over ignorance. >They preferred education specifically because they judged it would make >society and the state more prosperous in the long run. > >I know that's out of fashion now, but it's yet another way I'm a >retrogrouch. Instead of funneling taxpayer money into colleges, cut them off. Make them drop the nonsense courses and fire the administrative parasites. The more you give them the more they demand. Same as the federal government. -- C'est bon Soloman