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From: a3@a3.nl.invalid (Adri Verhoef)
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Subject: Re: Upgrading/changing from PGP to GnuPG for nl.*
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:37:34 GMT
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Julien, thanks for answering.  After reading your response, I spotted:

>After having generated the private and public keys, you should export 
>your PUBLIC key and make it available from the web site of your 
>hierarchy, and also announce it in news.admin.hierarchies.

There's a small problem, the website that we used (http://nl.news-admin.org/)
exists, but it is out of date and I think there is nobody who has the keys as
far as I can tell, also I don't know what happened to it, since I'm wondering
what "ausadmin" and a proposal for "aus.radio.amateur.dstar" is doing there,
and when you click that last proposal you'll get: "Software error:
Expected /home/ausadmin/vote/aus.radio.amateur.dstar/vote_start.cfg at
	/home/ausadmin/perllib/Vote.pm line 125.
For help, please send mail to the webmaster ([no address given]), giving this
					     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
error message and the time and date of the error."

To give you an idea why the list of newsgroups there is somewhat out of date:
"nl.actueel" is missing (created in 2015), nl.erotiek.* was removed in 2009.

At some point in time (2011) we decided to create e-mailaddresses at stack.nl
instead of nic.surfnet.nl, to administrate the nl-hierarchy, but they seem to
be revoked ("<nl-admin@stack.nl>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown").

At this moment I guess we (the administrators of nl.*) don't have an official
e-mailaddress, that is what can be concluded.  The administrative role, named
nl-admin, consisted of two persons since 2007, Adri Verhoef (=me) & Johan van
Selst; later on, a council was added called 'nl-raad', that consisted of five
persons, including nl-admin.  This was reduced to four persons in early 2022,
when Bart Dinnissen stepped down for health reasons; he died later that year.
Johan has an e-mailaddress at stack.nl, obviously he was involved in creation
of the administrative e-mailaddresses at stack.nl, amongst them were nl-admin
and nl-raad, see http://lists.stack.nl/hyperkitty/ - deselect 'Hide inactive'
- they are archived.

UPDATE: Right now I am in contact with Johan again!