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On 1/8/25 7:51 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 18:34:06 +0000, Pancho wrote:
> 
>> How do you explain Jihadist Islam?
>>
>> Religion/ideology is like evolution, the selfish meme. It is a mistake
>> to presume it must be intrinsically good for adherents, as opposed to
>> just good at perpetuating itself, creating new adherents.
> 
> https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/heresy-of-mohammed-10817
> 
> Belloc had a good explanation of why Islam didn't fade away like Arianism
> or other Christian heresies.
> 
> "Millions of modern people of the white civilization_that is, the
> civilization of Europe and America_have forgotten all about Islam. They
> have never come in contact with it. they take for granted that it is
> decaying, and that, anyway, it is just a foreign religion which will not
> concern them. It is, as a fact, the most formidable and persistent enemy
> which our civilization has had, and may at any moment become as large a
> menace in the future as it has been in the past."
> 
> He wrote that in 1938.

   Islam has proven to be a very robust meme. Adherents
   quickly become immersed, saturated, with the ideology.
   It explicitly includes doing Very Bad Things to all
   infidels/heretics. Like the crusaders take on the
   christian religion it DEMANDS being spread to all
   at ANY cost by ANY means.

   Bad enough in an age of slings and arrows ...

   Post WW-1, after the Brits badly (intentionally)
   divided up a lot of Islamic nations/territories,
   there WAS a perception that it would just kinda
   fade away. Instead the divisions spawned little
   wars, then bigger wars - and extremism.

   Today, bet that at LEAST Iran are de-facto nuclear
   powers. Islam has taken over much of Africa, and
   thus its vast resources. Poor immigration thinking
   has imported large quantities of Islamics into
   the belly of Europe - enough to be of considerable
   political influence. The Ottomans failed to take
   Europe (thank Vlad The Impaler) ... but it seems
   Europe has completed their goal.

   This all just ain't good ....

   And that's just religion. Add usual politics and
   ambition on top.