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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein Date: Thu, 02 May 2024 08:50:26 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <sdd73jla0juvre907hp7ne5ldhgmeda2mp@4ax.com> References: <v0p1uk$1vg7d$1@dont-email.me> <slrnv31u0j.1vhe.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> <v0s1ih$2p12f$1@dont-email.me> <76sYN.17070$n_S2.11805@fx42.iad> <9ho43jtpslc05g91780pnsrvcqkg343bma@4ax.com> <l9fdmqFd8jbU1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Thu, 02 May 2024 17:50:33 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="92364607d585474f42b79057a1ecf92b"; logging-data="4139348"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18WYKpazMkv+e5/N4ATH5qGX5XF0nBY58U=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:J6M40JVETc0OE7yy85MiAsPhCEo= Bytes: 2770 On 1 May 2024 17:50:19 GMT, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote: >On 1 May 2024 at 16:40:59 BST, "Paul S Person" ><psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote: > >> On Wed, 01 May 2024 14:13:23 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) >> wrote: >>=20 >>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes: >>>> On 4/30/2024 8:54 AM, Christian Weisgerber wrote: >>>>> On 2024-04-29, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> The book is also an in depth examination on how society in the USA >>>>>> changed from 1880 to 1980. Technology changed radically in that = time >>>>>> and so did societal morals about sex and drugs, not for the = better. >>>>>=20 >>>>> So you are in favor of criminalizing sex and liberalizing drugs? >>>>=20 >>>> I did not comment on laws, I commented on societal morals. >>>=20 >>> That would be societal mores. >>>=20 >>> Which are arbitrary. Yours are informed by your religion. >>> Others are informed by their religion. Some are informed >>> by no religion. >>=20 >> No acknowledged or no recognized religion, that is. >>=20 >> Indeed, it could be argued that societal mores /are/ the true religion >> of the society holding to them. > >It could, but it would be a terrible argument that misuses and confuses >the term religion. Don't see why. Well, unless you are restricting "religion" to "organized religion", of course. --=20 "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino, Who evil spoke of everyone but God, Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"