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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for Trump deportees:
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> kilmar-abrego-garciaOn Wed, 4 Jun 2025 08:59:07 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 6/4/2025 6:43 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>> kilmar-abrego-garciaOn Wed, 4 Jun 2025 13:27:52 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 04.06.2025 um 11:52 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
>>>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 11:23:34 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am 04.06.2025 um 10:31 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 01:10:55 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <d3vu3k5sec04fbqhmm6sjdktd2t9t5v81r@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>> Catrike Ryder  <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm neither in the USA illegally, nor have I committed any crimes, so
>>>>>>>> you needn't worry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not worried that you're in the US illegally or have committed any
>>>>>>> crimes. I'm worried that the government will *say* you're in the country
>>>>>>> illegally and then ship you off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no law that says the government cannot say you are in the
>>>>>>> country illegally. The only thing protecting you is the fact that you
>>>>>>> get a hearing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You clearly trust the government far more than I do to be willing to
>>>>>>> waive this right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> US citizens should indeed get a hearing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean "people who claim to be US citizens" should get a hearing to
>>>>> verify whether they are indeed US citizens?
>>>>
>>>> No
>>>
>>> So you claim to be a US citizen, the government claim you're not.
>>> Should you get a hearing or should the government deport you without a
>>> hearing?
>> 
>> Good grief...   I'm not going to respond to your hypothetical question
>> about something that's not going to happen.
>> 
>> --
>> C'est bon
>> Soloman
>
>
>All sorts of things happen.
>
>https://www.audacy.com/wbbm780/news/local/51st-murder-case-tied-to-former-cpd-detective-overturned
>
>I can't see a policy answer to inherent errors in any large 
>set with high stakes for the (guilty or innocent) 
>individual.  We do our best. And fail regularly.

I'll answer that question when it happens..  I don't think it'd be
wise to hold your breath.

--
C'est bon
Soloman