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From: Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: shitv: 21+ years of shameless support for MS's "lock-in, anti-competitiveness, and extortion"
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:57:12 -0500
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DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

>>>>> "[Microsoft's] real design goals are to provide adequate functionality
>>>>> while forcing long-term lock-in, prevent competition of any kind, and
>>>>> increase the ability to extort money from customers." - shitv Oct 2003
>>>>>
>>>>> User-Agent
>>>>> Oct 2003: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572   (Windows only)
>>>>> Nov 2024: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564   (Windows only)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Say it ain't so!
>>>>
>>>> Chris V. is a fucking prick, but we've been through this, Forte Agent
>>>> runs under Wine, even the final 8.0 version I'm using, much less is it
>>>> a problem with 1.x.  You *know* this.
>>>
>>> It doesn't run on Linux or Mac.
>>>
>>> It's Windows-only.
>> 
>> So Wine is Windows?  I'm not literally typing *this post* in Agent 8,
>> under Wine?  Are you just making up facts, pulling them out of your
>> butt, now?
>
>Take Wine off your Linux crapbox
>
>put Agent on it
>
>Run Agent
>
>Report to us what happened


That's retarded, and you know it, you're just using our use of Agent
as a cheap point to make, about how amazing Winblows software is. It's
not about the platform it's for, it's about the product having unique
value on *any* platform, that's the idea behind Wine and CodeWeavers.
You're trying to conflate some simple app like Agent with M$ Office or
Adobe Photoshop, it doesn't make basic sense.  Agent is precisely the
kind of app that Wine exists to run, an essential, smaller tool.  I
was told by Skype's Copilot that Office 2016 works OK under Wine, I'm
actually curious about that, if I can find a legit copy of it.  You
yourself have talked about clinging to outdated versions of the suite.
Your arguments just don't pass muster.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.