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Subject: Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box
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On 2025-04-17, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 2025-04-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2025-04-17 04:50, RonB wrote:
>>> On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-04-16 08:50, RonB wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/15/25 21:05, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 19:57:01 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know that it probably won't interest most people, but I thought that
>>>>>>>> was pretty cool. Knowing that a distribution provides not only the Bible
>>>>>>>> but notes to help you study the content is neat. Maybe if our resident
>>>>>>>> homosexual gets acquainted with it, he will have a chance of avoiding
>>>>>>>> Hell.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you talking about UbuntuCE?  If you're looking for enlightenment out
>>>>>>> of the box:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.bodhilinux.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bodhi Linux appears to be more of a minimalist philosophical statement
>>>>>>> rather than any specific Buddhist content.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, I was referring to Xiphos which allows you to download your
>>>>>> choice of Bible version from within the software.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently no Catholic Bible with the deuterocanonicals. I'm guessing their
>>>>> notes are skewed against the Catholic Church. Hopefully they're not relying
>>>>> on the Scofield Bible notes in any way.
>>>>
>>>> That is quite possible. I downloaded the New English Translation, but I
>>>> have no idea whether it skews in one way or another. According to some
>>>> experts I've read from, Bibles vary from one region to another with some
>>>> having more chapters than others, but their meaning is essentially the
>>>> same. Apparently, there are about forty differences in the wording used,
>>>> but the meaning isn't altered in any way.
>>>>
>>>> I trust the Bible, but I don't trust the interpretations made by
>>>> homosexuals or progressives.
>>> 
>>> The deuterocanonicals are an important part of the Bible. They clearly
>>> pointed to Christ, which is why the Jews eventually threw them out, and
>>> Protestants followed their example.
>>> 
>>> Here's an excerpt from Wisdom 2:12-20. This may help explain why the Jews
>>> rejected the deuterocanonicals (they were originally in the LXX or
>>> Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible).
>>> 
>>>     12. “Let us lie in wait for the righteous man, because he is inconvenient
>>>     to us and opposes our actions; he reproaches us for sins against the law,
>>>     and accuses us of sins against our training. 13. He professes to have
>>>     knowledge of God, and calls himself a child of the Lord. 14. He became to
>>>     us a reproof of our thoughts; 15. the very sight of him is a burden to us,
>>>     because his manner of life is unlike that of others, and his ways are
>>>     strange. 16. We are considered by him as something base, and he avoids our
>>>     ways as unclean; he calls the last end of the righteous happy, and boasts
>>>     that God is his father. 17. Let us see if his words are true, and let us
>>>     test what will happen at the end of his life; 18. for if the righteous man
>>>     is God’s son, he will help him and will deliver him from the hand of his
>>>     adversaries. 19. Let us test him with insult and torture, that we may find
>>>     out how gentle he is, and make trial of his forbearance. 20. Let us
>>>     condemn him to a shameful death, for, according to what he says, he will
>>>     be protected.”
>>> 
>>> This was written centuries before Christ's death on the cross. There's also
>>> a lot about the Virgin Mary in the deuterocanonicals, as interpreted by
>>> Catholic saints.
>>
>> The fact that such a thing would be written centuries before Christ and 
>> that the events would unfold in almost exactly the same manner only 
>> confirms that Jesus was exactly the Messiah the Jews were waiting for. 
>> Their continued resistance to Him is ridiculous.
>>
>> Where would I be able to find the deuterocanonicals?
>>
>
> Why do Americans use the term Judeo-Christian so much, and why do
> American Christians have such a hard on for Israel?  You think they'd be
> a bit more sceptical of a people who SPECIFICALLY rejected Christ.
>
> Its like Linux supporters supporting Steve Ballmer...

It's not accidental. "Christian" Zionism has been pushed on Americans for 
over a century via Scofield's Bible commentaries. It's also where we get the 
"rapture," the rebuilding of the Temple (why?) and a lot of other malarkey 
totally unrelated to Christianity. Even to the point that Christians believe 
they should be subservient to "God's chosen people" who rejected Christ and 
blaspheme Him in their Talmud. St. John referred to these Jews who opposed 
Christianity and killed Christians as those "who say they are the Jews, but 
are not." but are the "synagogue of Satan" twice in the Apocalypse 
(Revelation).

    7. He, that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the 
    churches: To him, that overcometh, I will give to eat of the tree of 
    life, which is in the paradise of my God. 8. And to the angel of the 
    church of Smyrna write: These things saith the First and the Last, who 
    was dead, and is alive:  9. I know thy tribulation and thy poverty, but 
    thou art rich: and thou art blasphemed by them that say they are Jews 
    and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. 10. Fear none of those 
    things which thou shalt suffer. Behold, the devil will cast some of you 
    into prison that you may be tried: and you shall have tribulation ten 
    days. Be thou faithful until death: and I will give thee the crown of 
    life. —Revelation 2
    
    7. And to the angel of the church of Philadelphia, write: These things 
    saith the Holy One and the true one, he that hath the key of David; he 
    that openeth, and no man shutteth; shutteth, and no man openeth:  8. I 
    know thy works. Behold, I have given before thee a door opened, which no 
    man can shut: because thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my 
    word, and hast not denied my name. 9. Behold, I will bring of the 
    synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie. 
    Behold, I will make them to come and adore before thy feet. And they 
    shall know that I have loved thee. 10. Because thou hast kept the word of 
    my patience, I will also keep thee from the hour of the temptation, 
    which shall come upon the whole world to try them that dwell upon the 
    earth. —Revelation 3
    
There's are a lot of passages (even in the Gospels) that show that those who 
followed the "traditions of the elders" and those who believed in God and 
His Son, Jesus, were in opposition from the beginning. You'll find the 
phrase "for fear Jews" many times in the New Testament. There is no such 
thing as "Judeo-Christian." There are Old Testament (Israelite) worshipers 
of the True God who looked forward to the coming of the Messiah and 
converted to Christianity when He arrived. And there are the Rabbinical Jews 
who opposed Christianity, who created a new religion based on the 
"traditions of the elders," which became the Satanic Talmud. 
  
-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien