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From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Microsoft warns of blue screen crashes caused by April updates
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 05:00:11 -0000 (UTC)
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On 2025-04-19, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 4/18/25 16:48, RonB wrote:
>> On 2025-04-18, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2025-04-18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 10:14:54 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The desktops being roughly similar is only a necessity for users who
>>>>> were already old when they learned MacOS or Windows and did so
>>>>> stubbornly. Considering how difficult it was for them to adopt that
>>>>> much, you wouldn't want to put an entirely different operating system in
>>>>> front of them. For anyone else, a switch from Windows to Gnome or
>>>>> Cinnamon shouldn't be such a chore.
>>>>
>>>> On Linux, “different GUIs” is not the same as “different operating
>>>> systems”. Linux offers more variety of GUIs than all the rest of the
>>>> computing world put together.
>>>
>>> Wont the obsolence of X11 put and end to that?  Many Desktop
>>> Environments and Window Managers won't work at all on Wayland, from what
>>> I understand.
>> 
>> Hopefully X11 will be around for a couple more decades. It's getting close
>> to two decades since Wayland was first announced and it still doesn't seem
>> completely ready to me.
>
> It's not ready in Linux Mint, but that's because Cinnamon hasn't been 
> rewritten to work with it yet. If you use KDE or Gnome through Fedora or 
> Ubuntu, Wayland is quite excellent. You might not notice a difference if 
> your use is basic, but if you enjoy touchpad gestures, decent external 
> monitor support and things like the night light, it's definitely better 
> than X11.

Wayland is usable, if you don't mind adjusting to it, but it's not really 
"ready." I've tried Wayland in Ubuntu. On my equipment it is not better. I 
didn't know what artifacts were until I streamed video in Ubuntu under 
Wayland.

As for touchpad gestures... I've already remarked on that. I don't need 
them. As for external monitors, I haven't had any problem using them with 
X11 under Linux Mint (on the rare occasions when I've used external 
monitors). I've never used anything like Night Light, but I think I have it 
built into my monitor and I'm guessing I could download something, if I 
wanted it.

Out of curiosity, does Alt+Shift+U allow you to input Unicode characters? 
This is something I use fairly often.

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