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From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Microsoft warns of blue screen crashes caused by April updates
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 05:01:09 -0000 (UTC)
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On 2025-04-19, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 4/18/25 16:51, RonB wrote:
>> On 2025-04-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 4/18/25 05:23, Borax Man wrote:
>>>> On 2025-04-18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 10:14:54 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The desktops being roughly similar is only a necessity for users who
>>>>>> were already old when they learned MacOS or Windows and did so
>>>>>> stubbornly. Considering how difficult it was for them to adopt that
>>>>>> much, you wouldn't want to put an entirely different operating system in
>>>>>> front of them. For anyone else, a switch from Windows to Gnome or
>>>>>> Cinnamon shouldn't be such a chore.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Linux, “different GUIs” is not the same as “different operating
>>>>> systems”. Linux offers more variety of GUIs than all the rest of the
>>>>> computing world put together.
>>>>
>>>> Wont the obsolence of X11 put and end to that?  Many Desktop
>>>> Environments and Window Managers won't work at all on Wayland, from what
>>>> I understand.
>>>
>>> Only Gnome and KDE seem to fully support Wayland. For everything else,
>>> it's experimental. That's part of why I'm not using Linux Mint at the
>>> moment. Cinnamon isn't scheduled to use Wayland until the 23.x releases
>>> which means that if you have a laptop and enjoy using gestures, you
>>> won't be getting full support there.
>> 
>> I'm in no hurry for Wayland. If Linux Mint makes Wayland the default, I hope
>> I'll still be able to revert to X11 with a one line change in the
>> configuration.
>
> X11 is not going to go away with Linux Mint anytime soon. The 23.x 
> release is supposed to default to Wayland as of 2026, but I don't 
> believe that they will ever remove support for X11.

I hope not. I'm an old enough dog that I don't want to learn new tricks.

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