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From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 01:22:39 -0000 (UTC)
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On 2025-04-24, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-04-24 08:58, RonB wrote:
>> On 2025-04-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2025-04-23 01:12, RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2025-04-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-04-22 02:05, RonB wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-04-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/21/25 17:52, RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-21, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/21/25 00:40, RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-19, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.rebelnews.com/man_jailed_in_uk_for_posting_memes_of_george_floyd_in_whatsapp_facebook_group_chats>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "A former West Mercia police officer has been jailed for 20 weeks for
>>>>>>>>>>>       sharing 10 memes about George Floyd in a WhatsApp group chat and
>>>>>>>>>>>       charged with "sending grossly offensive messages"."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's plain racist abuse, not "posting memes".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not like the "mostly peaceful" BLM riots, eh?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ej8zp4971o>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Incitement to riot is not just "posting memes".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even "mostly peaceful" riots where only a few people are killed or beaten,
>>>>>>>>>> and only a few dozen buildings are burned down and only a few hundred shops
>>>>>>>>>> are looted and vandalized? Are you TRYING to offend BLM because, you know,
>>>>>>>>>> black lives matter. But it's "racist" to say "white lives matter," don't you
>>>>>>>>>> know?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://news.sky.com/story/police-officer-jailed-over-racist-whatsapp-memes-mocking-george-floyds-death-12633966>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Promoting racism is not just "posting memes".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And burning, looting, beating and murder are not racist if they're done
>>>>>>>>>> under the flag of "BLM." They're just "mostly peaceful" protests.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy76dxkpjpjo>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Stirring up racial hatred on social media." is not just "posting
>>>>>>>>>>> memes".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I hope you're not speaking about the racist BLM. Those racists don't like to
>>>>>>>>>> be called racists. You could lose your Woke card and be summarily canceled
>>>>>>>>>> — maybe even jailed for racism.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Better trod carefully when speaking out against "mostly peaceful" riots. Be
>>>>>>>>>> sure you know who's ox is being gored. Sometimes it's hard to tell the
>>>>>>>>>> difference between a "mostly peaceful" protest and a riot, don't you know.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It sounds to me like Snipe left because he realized that he wasn't in an
>>>>>>>>> echo chamber where everyone is forced to agree with his stupidity or get
>>>>>>>>> banned (or doxxed). I hope he enjoys the choir of BlueSky.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not in favor of riots. They are, by their nature, not "mostly peaceful."
>>>>>>>> But I've got a feeling that Snipe opposed them (or not) depending on who was
>>>>>>>> doing the "mostly peaceful protesting."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I used to want to talk to people with opposing opinions and see if we
>>>>>>> have common ground somewhere, but with my older age I've lost all
>>>>>>> interest because they never make any kind of sense. It's the same thing
>>>>>>> with Muslims and their near total, purposeful misunderstanding of the
>>>>>>> Christian religion to further their own. If Snipe doesn't like that we
>>>>>>> have a different opinion, he's free to join Larry Pietraskiewicz in that
>>>>>>> abandoned linux group he once tried to get us to migrate to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The days of disagreeing but still getting along are long gone. The Woke
>>>>>> cancel culture is for immediate dismissal of the person who disagrees with
>>>>>> them. If they can cancel, they cancel, if they can't cancel they retreat.
>>>>>> Any time you disagree with one of these Woke whiners, they call you a
>>>>>> "hater" for taking a contrary position and arguing with them. This is what
>>>>>> cults do, these are not the actions of reasonable people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My family was always an arguing family. We would argue politics, even
>>>>>> religion, and ten minutes the argument was forgotten. I've never understood
>>>>>> cliquish cult mentality. I've never wanted to be part of a clique.
>>>>>
>>>>> This morning, I actually discovered that my old high school buddy, who
>>>>> went from working as a Director of Engineering at Microsoft to doing the
>>>>> same at Google, actually left the corporation recently to start work at
>>>>> some AI company called Snowflake. I can imagine what would prompt a
>>>>> person to leave a lucrative, comfortable position at Google, but I
>>>>> imagine that a Coptic Christian whose father escaped a position as
>>>>> doctor in Egypt because of Muslim bullying to come to Montreal and work
>>>>> at The Bay could see the writing on the wall. The guy probably just
>>>>> wanted to do his job and create some new technology, but faggots kept
>>>>> talking about their genders, privilege, white supremacy, how black lives
>>>>> matter, how Israel is participating in genocide and so on. If I were
>>>>> still speaking to him, I'd congratulate him for jumping off the sinking
>>>>> ship of wokeness.
>>>>
>>>> NutYahoo in Israel IS genocidal. You can't call it much else when they
>>>> carpet bomb women and children trapped in Gaza, and don't allow food and
>>>> health supplies in.
>>>>
>>>> Other than that, yeah.
>>>
>>> I'm sure that a lot of what Israel is doing is not by the book. However,
>>> having spent a lot of time with Muslims, I know how sneaky they are.
>>> Whenever there is any kind of altercation, they will claim to be
>>> victims. You can actually spot them committing a crime and they will say
>>> that the crime was committed against them. If you have a mountain of
>>> evidence against them, their first instinct is to manipulate and make a
>>> deal. There is no possibility of self-reflection whatsoever in that
>>> community. That's why I am convinced that a lot of the stories we get
>>> about how the Gazans are victims are also manipulated to make them look
>>> like victims.
>>>
>>> If any of you have had only limited interaction with Muslims, I would
>>> suggest you watch videos from YouTube where Christians, armed with loads
>>> of evidence about the Koran's contradictions and lies, interrupt, talk
>>> over and attack people demonstrating that Islam is a religion of
>>> bullshit. It is like they've been trained since birth to wage taqiyya
>>> against anyone who points out their many flaws.
>> 
>> I think "not by the book" is letting them off with genocide with a light tap
>> on the wrist. These sons of bitches in Israel have been murdering
>> Palestinians for over 70 years. Even before this latest war, they regularly
>> "mowed the grass" (their term) in Gaza about every three years. By "mowing
>> the grass" they meant arbitrarily bombing civilians, men, women and
>> children. One of their more infamous bombings was during the hour of the day
>> when children were walking home from school. The bastards in the Israeli
>> government are satanic.
>> 
>> Palestine was not always Muslim. The Christians that lived there have pretty
>> much been eradicated, The ones that remain are spit on by the Orthodox Jews.
>> Before the Israeli terrorist thugs made Israel a "state" they're the ones
>> who were bombing buses and homes and they stole these homes from the
>> Palestinians.
>> 
>> Buying into this "fake news" narrative about the genocide is to fall for
>> Israeli propaganda. These damn bastards actually call children "terrorists."
>> Peace will only come to the Middle East when the Israeli government is
>> eradicated.
>> 
>> Before the Israeli terrorists agitated for and created their Zionist
>> "state," Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in Palestine in peace with one
>> another.
>> 
>> NutYahoo is doing his best to destroy Israel. I hope he soon complete the
>> job.
>
> For my part, I don't really care about either side. Israel doesn't care 
> about Christians unless they need money or people to fight for them. 
> Similarly, Muslims don't care about us and would be glad to kill us 
> and/or rape out wives. There is a chance that Christians and Muslims 
> lived in peace, but I have a lot of trouble believing that narrative 
> considering what their scripture says about how we should be treated.

As for Palestine pre-Israel, you don't have to go by narrative you just have 
to go by history.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien