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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Date: Sat, 3 May 2025 01:06:21 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 80 Message-ID: <slrn101ar0d.7mc.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> References: <oG5OP.1820195$BrX.647879@fx12.iad> <slrn100kcgb.ds7.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <slrn100kfa7.edd.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <1irOP.851750$d51.585824@fx46.iad> <slrn100mumt.dkd.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <vuh558$11toh$3@dont-email.me> <slrn100obf3.pd6.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <slrn100oj38.81kf.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <V74PP.2709395$OrR5.911761@fx18.iad> <slrn100rkkh.bh86.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <HTuPP.2635138$eNx6.1862988@fx14.iad> <slrn100ucb4.cuiu.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <slrn100uq8q.ju6.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <SPKPP.534546$541.133137@fx47.iad> <m79u7iF2bf9U1@mid.individual.net> <slrn100vnke.a2i.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <xPRPP.2578086$2zn8.395648@fx15.iad> <slrn1010rkg.19bh.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <Cp4QP.2986768$t84d.1101795@fx11.iad> <slrn1011o35.46v.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <m7c9cgFbucaU1@mid.individual.net> <slrn1013tnu.1aev.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <slrn101akg6.2sik.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 03 May 2025 03:06:22 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d37d373b0283afd2f17008681c5c0bff"; logging-data="2450087"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18rt7YF+P5byYHpENSYFsPQCWxtcOLMZF8=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7sLLm4SUKRB4kiowJsycWmKgJ0Y= sha1:yDvTt5fa7Lazf1N9Esce0qZD8Mo= On 2025-05-02, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2025-04-30, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: >> On 2025-04-29, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: >>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 14:21:25 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> >>> wrote in <slrn1011o35.46v.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh>: >>> >>>> On 2025-04-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>> On 2025-04-29 02:15, RonB wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-04-28 16:01, RonB wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2025-04-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:49:54 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'll admit that I didn't notice all of what installing Snaps did >>>>>>>>>> to my machine, but I could definitely tell that it was a mess. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You don't want to run 'df -a'. I'm up to /dev/loop62 for snap >>>>>>>>> stuff. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It took me a while to root all that snap crap out of my system, but >>>>>>>> I think I've got it all cleared now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a script you can use to automatically rid your system of it. >>>>>>> A quick search on your engine of choice will find it for you. Heck, >>>>>>> it comes up at the top of the results in Brave Search. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I get more involved with Ubuntu I'll look it up. I was just happy >>>>>> to be wrong about some of my Ubuntu and Wayland assumptions. Ubuntu is >>>>>> not going to become my "go to" Linux distribution. It was more in the >>>>>> line of... "even the Linux 'flavor' I don't particularly like is >>>>>> pretty good." (I'm still not a fan of Gnome 3.) >>>>> >>>>> I wasn't a fan, but I was happy to use it because I'm a fan of Ubuntu's >>>>> interface. However, I won't bother with it if the contributors are >>>>> proud members of Antifa. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> They are? Thats a concern if true. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure why Antifa are not labelled as a terrorist organisation, >>>> they fit the definition. >>> >>> That's because Antifa -- literally "Anti-fascist" -- isn't an organization. >>> It's a movement -- like skateboarding. >>> >>> And I love it when people invoke Antifa (anti-fascists) as a boogieman; >>> then you know where they stand. For example: Eisenhower was "Antifa". >>> Oooo, scary. >>> >> >> The "antifa" of today have nothing to do with Eisenhower, and you know >> it. >> >> Its a movement, like drug cartels. >> >> You know, North Korea calls itself a democracy. IT must be one, its in >> the name... > > Heck, even Germany claims to be a "democracy" but they're "intelligence" arm > has just declared the most popular party in Germany, AfD, "extremist" — > which is probably their first step in banning Germans' voting choice in > upcoming elections. Look what "democracies" in Romania and Moldova have done > recently, banning popular office holders and candidates because they don't > toe the Woke line. And ditto the so-called "democracy" of Ukraine (totally > banning the opposition, the opposition media and jailing many of its > members). "Democracy" has many "flexible" meanings these days. Basically > dictatorship wolves in "democratic" lambs' clothing. And they're not even > really bothering to hide it any more. It's a sick joke. > Democracys days are numbered. It cannot survive the diverse society our "leaders" are creating. We've sown the seeds for the dissolution of freedom and unity decades ago. What these people are doing, holding back Democracy is necessary if you want a pluralistic society. ITs rational for them to do that. They have to, they have no choice. Our choice is whether we want their World Order, or one of our own choosing.