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On 2025-05-21, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 21 May 2025 13:47:52 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>
> But many including PCLinuxOS which I use are able to have a full 
> root
>> account not easily accessed and services available to users are easily
>> set with a GUI.
>> 
>> bliss- Dell 7730 Precision- PCLinuxOS 2025.05- Linux 6.6.91- Plasma
>> 5.27.11
>
> Ubuntu is bizarre.  Just go to their help site and search for topics like 
> run as root, create root, or admin access, etc... and in instance after 
> instance after instance the only responses you will see are admonishments 
> about using root.
>
> Why do you need to use root?  Only experts are allowed to do that.  If you 
> have to ask why Ubuntu doesn't allow root accounts, you aren't smart 
> enough to use it as root. Anyone without a college degree related to 
> computer engineering, in some fashion, doesn't have the intelligence 
> needed to operate Ubuntu as an admin.  
>
> I just assumed the distro was created for children who are just learning 
> to use Linux.  

Canonical basically treat their users the way Microsoft does, perhaps
even worse.  I never recommend Ubuntu to anyone for that reason, in
fact, I tell anyone interested in Linux to *avoid* it.

The whole point of Free Software, is you, the user, get to choose what
to do, how to do it.  Its your computer, your software, and if you want
to run everything as root, you can.

Sure, warn people.  Recommend against it, but people don't move to Linux
or other Free OS's to have "mummy" control them again.

When it comes to children, I would only lock down their account if they
were using my system, or the family system.

I'm about to install Linux for my daughter on her laptop, she's almost a
teenager.  She will have full root access.  I want her to appreciate
what its like to be responsible, to have ownership over your own
technology and be in control and free.