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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: the power of junk, Is Parallel Programming Hard, And, If So, What Can You Do About It? Date: Sun, 25 May 2025 20:24:42 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: <slrn1036v4a.2e9bs.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> References: <100e0it$19264$1@dont-email.me> <100o978$3mk15$4@dont-email.me> <100ocpp$3ni2j$1@dont-email.me> <zC_XP.25348$mjgd.11762@fx09.iad> <100q0a5$278p$1@gal.iecc.com> <97e289412c7fd377a35d260534190fda@www.novabbs.org> <100q9el$3k7s2$2@dont-email.me> <686d9ab45e8bf881d65e8c6156bf60a6@www.novabbs.org> <100r42u$b928$1@dont-email.me> <PxlYP.104935$MKx.20209@fx13.iad> <100t06i$r5si$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Sun, 25 May 2025 22:24:42 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1af89e0c730aadc96d4f17c2d7449e15"; logging-data="1650541"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19LqVeTi22e3HXyfMZDr/v1z7rDqerK7rM=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:T3d10QzdB8aYjGDl5A63wAhhkKA= Bytes: 2485 On 2025-05-24, BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> wrote: > I am aware though they are apparently building a new aluminum plant / > refinery somewhere in the area (near Inola). Will apparently be the > biggest aluminum plant in the US once finished. > > Looking it up, seems the current going rate for power (for > commercial/industrial use): > $0.05 / kWh (general) > $0.02 / kWh (off-peak) > > I guess the area is known partly for having comparably cheap > electricity, vs current US average price of $0.19/kWh. > > Looks it up, most of the local power plants are using natural gas. > > Looks up more, apparently Oklahoma also has cheaper natural gas, at > around $5 per thousand cubic feet, vs $13 (US average). Apparently > Oklahoma and Texas are among the top producers of natural gas in the US > (well, besides Pennsylvania; which also makes a lot). > ... I wonder if this is because they are capturing "waste" methane at the wellhead of fracked oil wells. I know thay used to consider methane by-product at oil wellheads to be worthless waste, to be flared off on-site, until EPA started fining them for the practice.