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From: Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why?
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2025 00:02:26 -0000 (UTC)
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On 2025-06-07, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2025-06-06, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2025-06-06, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 05/06/2025 18:11, Nuno Silva wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> But I suppose widescreen displays make up most
>>>>>> of what can be usually purchased these days?
>>>>> 
>>>>> The market for LCD panels is overwhelmingly TVs at the top end and smart 
>>>>> phones or fondleslabs at the bottom
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tooling up for something suitable for workstations would be extremely 
>>>>> expensive.
>>>>> WE live off the droppings from the TV markets table...
>>>>> 
>>>>> And that tends to be the HD aspect ratio screen
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, and this fact is *also* why the computer LCD world very quickly 
>>>> went from 4:3 aspect screens to 16:9 (or if lucky, 16:10) aspect 
>>>> screens.
>>>>
>>>> The economies of scale from using LCD panels that are "TV aspect ratio" 
>>>> is just too cheap to ignore.
>>>
>>> No problem.  I have two monitors on my machine; the older one is 4:3 and
>>> the newer one is 16:9.  Both are filled up with xterm windows plus an
>>> instance of VirtualBox running Windows XP.  Move and resize until everything
>>> tiles nicely...
>> 
>> When my Trinitron CRT died, I went out of my way to get a 16:10 ratio
>> monitor instead of 16:9.
>> 
>> I dislike widescreen immensely. Even widescreen TV's are overrated.
>
> "Widescreen" has always been "chasing the movies" because the mouth 
> breathers can't understand why their latest remake of X has those black 
> bars on the top and bottom of the picture.
>
> 4:3 was the original (way back) movie aspect ratio.  When TV was 
> created, it copied 4:3 because that's what the movies were set to.  The 
> result was the movies then felt they had to "1 up" to maintain their 
> reason for being and they became 16:9 aspect.  That was, until TV's 
> went 16:9 and the movies had then gone "ultra wide" to maintain their 1 
> upsmanship.  With the result that the mouth breathers now have to 
> sometimes contend with black bars on top, or on the sides, of whatever 
> they are streaming at the moment, depending upon what year it was 
> filmed.
>

Widescreen always felt a gimmick to me.  IT was, for *some* movies,
better.  Those movies which showed wide vistas and expanses, but for
other movies, like Naked Gun or Sliding Doors, its pointless.

For computers, it leads to wasted space.

Open up many webpages and notice how much blank space is on the sides.
I've just gone to news.com.au, and HALF the screen is just blank white
space.

Mobiles are portrait, heavily so, desktops widescreen, heavily so, so
this results in just a mismatch.