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From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
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Subject: Re: CRAP Poll #Orange-Is-The-New-Black
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 21:30:03 -0000 (UTC)
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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 16:32 this Wednesday (GMT):
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 19:20:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>
>>Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 17:47 this Friday (GMT):
>>>
>>> Wait, didn't we just do one of these stupid things two weeks ago? And
>>> another one just a fortnight prior to that? What's going on? Didn't
>>> these polls used to be monthly (if that often?) Yeah, well, the thing
>>> is that I got a list of ideas for future polls... and that list keeps
>>> getting longer. I gotta start shoving some of them out the door before
>>> that list evolves into a spreadsheet. I really don't need ANOTHER
>>> spreadsheet in my life. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Preliminaries done; let's get to this latest Completely Random and
>>> Pointless Poll!
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> Question: Do you ever return games you've bought for a refund?
>>>
>>>      a) Nope. I buy the game and it's mine forever, regardless 
>>>         of any issues.
>>>
>>>      b) Only if there is something really wrong with it (the 
>>>         disc is broken or it's missing something important from 
>>>         the box)
>>>
>>>      c) Sure, if the game is too buggy to run on my computer
>>>
>>>      d) If the game works but there's something about it I 
>>>         disagree with (say, discovering it has Denuvo) that wasn't
>>>         disclosed before purchase, I don't see why I shouldn't
>>>
>>>      e) If I try it and don't like it, back it goes!
>>>
>>>      f) Ran it, played it, liked it but it's done before the
>>>         return period ends; why shouldn't I get my money back?
>>>
>>>      g) If they'll take it back, it's going back
>>>
>>>      h) I never purchase my games, so this concept of 
>>>         'returns' does not apply to me
>>>
>>>      &) I am an iconoclast who refuses your options and instead
>>>         offers my own suggestion: ___________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> Ideally, I'd fall into option A but realistically, I tend to go with
>>> option B. I'm a big believer in "caveat emptor" and if I buy something
>>> and it doesn't suit me (or has problems running on my rig), I believe
>>> I've only myself to blame. It's only if I pay for a game and -for
>>> whatever reason- I don't GET it that I start making a fuss and
>>> demanding my money back. Some examples in my own personal history
>>> include buying a game and there was a disc missing in the box, or the
>>> manual was missing (and it was impossible to play the game without it
>>> because of copy-protection), or the download link doesn't work.
>>>
>>> I tend to be more forgiving of bugs than I should, but that's probably
>>> because a) I'm usually technically adept that I can get a game
>>> running, or have enough 'spare' computers that even if the game
>>> doesn't run on one platform, I can get it working on another.
>>> Similarly, I give the publishers a pass about unspecified DRM because
>>> I figure that's something _I_ should have looked into before
>>> purchasing if it was such a deal breaker. 
>>>
>>> But that's just me. Where do you draw the line? Do you return games
>>> for refunds?  
>>
>>
>>I firmly fall into the E category here. I always feel a bit bad about
>>spending money for games, so if its not something I super enjoy, then
>>it's going back in the Steam shelves. I remember refunding Terraria bc
>>it didn't click with me. For more story based games, if I DO finish it
>>in the period, I will refund it too (pony island). I usually don't
>>refund games under 5$ tho.
>
> Don't feel that bad. There's no right and wrong to these answers
> (well, maybe if I'd added a "I steal the game then bring it back for
> money", that would be wrong, but the other options are forgivable ;-)
> and I didn't want to imply any sort of moral high-ground. I could even
> argue that sticking to my guns with options A and B are not only
> silly, but encourage bad practices on the part of retailers and
> publishers, whereas taking back a product after you find it isn't to
> your taste sends a clearer message. 

Fair enough, though I think the publisher still gets paid a little bit
for refunded games.

> I think Valve does a good job with its refund policy that's fairest
> for all around; it's a full refund, but with a time limit (both in
> terms of how long since you've purchased and how long you played the
> game). If you aren't trying to cheat that system, then there's no need
> to feel bad about demanding your cash back after you try a game and
> find its not to taste.


In egregious situations, they're also really good about issuing refunds
automatically for everyone.
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