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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.szaf.org!inka.de!mips.inka.de!.POSTED.localhost!not-for-mail From: Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Re: Remnant of the future Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 18:57:54 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <slrnv15r5i.8qh.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> References: <o9ai0j1mhql0eupat9fvo7nsi876v8jk2i@4ax.com> <39u11jdemkrit66korhjukug3u3ihbh0de@4ax.com> <uurind$23otj$1@dont-email.me> <2qn51jd571p8upi1o19uti1q64toj1ksp0@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 18:57:54 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: lorvorc.mips.inka.de; posting-host="localhost:::1"; logging-data="9042"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@mips.inka.de" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD) Bytes: 1566 Lines: 19 On 2024-04-07, Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com> wrote: [Portuguese "és"] >>I find it complicated that it would be anything other than the normal >>evolution of latin 'es', but I haven't read on the subject. > > How would ‘es’ keep its s, The same way other second person forms keep their -s: Final -s is conserved from Latin to Portuguese. > when ‘est’ lost the t AND the s? Not a regular sound change. Given it's extremely high frequency, an irregular reduction isn't that surprising. And again, the 2./3. person clash after regular loss of -t had to be resolved in some way. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de