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From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
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Subject: Re: Do Microsoft?s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 12:30:06 -0000 (UTC)
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RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote at 21:46 this Tuesday (GMT):
> On 2024-06-04, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On 2024-06-03 10:33 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 20:42:36 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yep, following exact instructions to do the things that I intend to do
>>>> with a Linux distribution makes me a moron. It only failed because I
>>>> farted while doing it or something. Perhaps I didn't type the commands
>>>> fast enough or didn't press Enter at the exact time the planets aligned.
>>>> It's not Linux, it's never Linux. Some thing or body else is always at
>>>> fault.
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UnPzp2lmNk
>>> 
>>> Why's everybody always picking on me?
>>
>> I'm not even complaining, I'm used to this behaviour from the Linux 
>> faithful. Whenever someone points out one of Linux's flaws or is soured 
>> on using it because of the rotten experience it provides them, the lot 
>> of you jump on anyone stating the obvious like flies on a turd. Any time 
>> anyone shows Linux to be bad in one way or another, this is the only 
>> response you can provide:
>
> I've allowed (and stated many times) that Linux is probably not a good 
> choice for game players. I don't play games in Linux, therefore I don't have 
> the problems you seem to have. It's not rocket science, most video games are 
> made for the Windows platform. Any Linux Windows game playing solution is 
> going to be challenging.

True, but Steam has made some effort in that department.

>> 1) Not me, never!
>> 2) You must have done it wrong!
>
> I don't have problems with Linux. Period. But I don't say you've done 
> something wrong — except (maybe) by picking a new distribution that seems to 
> be poorly supported and has a small user base.
>
>> And then, when it is shown that Linux is the problem beyond a shadow of 
>> a doubt, and the person showing it is only looking for a bug to be fixed 
>> or for some problem to be corrected, you all disappear. It's the same 
>> thing here as it is on Linux forums on the web. Every so often, someone 
>> will "help" by asking the person to execute some obscure command which 
>> ends up doing nothing but making the problem worse.
>
> We "disappear" by responding to you...? Okay, whatever. My "help" was the 
> suggestion that you find an older, better supported distribution. But I'm 
> not going to be that helpful to you because I don't play Windows video games 
> on Linux. Again, I suggest that people who want to play Windows video games 
> stick with Windows for their OS. How is this "disappearing?" With my limited 
> knowleged of Windows game playing on Linux, this is the best advice I can 
> give.
>
>> But you're right. Facing serious problems on day _one_ is a lot better 
>> than having to learn something awful like sfc /scannow or dism /online 
>> /cleanup-image /scanhealth whenever problems emerge. Only in the perfect 
>> world of Linux where commands like "tcpdump -A -s 10240 'tcp port 80 and 
>> (((ip[2:2] - ((ip[0]&0xf)<<2)) - ((tcp[12]&0xf0)>>2)) != 0)' | egrep 
>> --line-buffered "^........(GET |HTTP\/|POST |HEAD )|^[A-Za-z0-9-]+: " | 
>> sed -r 's/^........(GET |HTTP\/|POST |HEAD )/\n\1/g'" are the norm can 
>> anyone be happy.

Why are you using egrep? The sed part of the pipeline also seems a bit
iffy..

> Windows has serious problems. Especially with updating. You know that, we 
> all know that. It's also spyware and it's getting worse by the day.
>
> I'll say it one more time. If your goal is to play Windows video games, 
> stick with Windows. For those of use who DON'T play Windows video games, and 
> could care less about the bloated Microcrap Office Suite, Linux works well. 
> I simply DO NOT have problems with Linux. Period.


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