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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Do Microsoft?s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux? Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 12:30:06 -0000 (UTC) Organization: the-candyden-of-code Lines: 77 Message-ID: <slrnv60mbs.6vpf.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> References: <dd545j9s32ugnbptlsp0pd6anbpjlh9j0h@4ax.com> <lbi8hlFgqelU3@mid.individual.net> <ovt75j1etrd4s5rvvij0ikcnjg0evrjhiq@4ax.com> <v31bnf$3tudd$2@dont-email.me> <0cj85jlbfgnrv79ia0psgs5fo52u0sr3in@4ax.com> <v33c67$ddl1$3@dont-email.me> <lokb5j95a014h0otaujrmqdt2uruq1dosm@4ax.com> <v35pnf$qao6$3@dont-email.me> <66579ff2$0$1245637$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <voN5O.12079$G7Za.6226@fx10.iad> <v39qj6$1lnr7$15@dont-email.me> <vQ_5O.636$RsQ5.408@fx42.iad> <v3gini$31rjc$9@dont-email.me> <e0Z6O.26052$qQk3.14698@fx18.iad> <lc3rs6Fk6ihU5@mid.individual.net> <QW27O.10455$1Jw6.3829@fx37.iad> <lc3t27Fk6ihU8@mid.individual.net> <G747O.8970$nd%8.7019@fx45.iad> <lc4afnFm8leU1@mid.individual.net> <x0i7O.9059$nd%8.375@fx45.iad> <lc6hbdF24ctU2@mid.individual.net> <bDp7O.1263$W2K4.896@fx38.iad> <v3ljl5$2iln$2@dont-email.me> <3qt7O.14220$xPJ1.12299@fx09.iad> <lc7cmsF628vU1@mid.individual.net> <k9D7O.36645$fBCb.27003@fx11.iad> <v3o20c$jgco$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2024 14:30:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a1578cfcb22cb5e189b3c3b788abc819"; logging-data="1029530"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/FWPEo8DPDVJm8q5vGwtElv7lrvAhJJdT3gpJP5Xyc2g==" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:pkkcrLDyHXob60Jy2PD1F96KYO0= X-Face: b{dPmN&%4|lEo,wUO\"KLEOu5N_br(N2Yuc5/qcR5i>9-!^e\.Tw9?/m0}/~:UOM:Zf]% b+ V4R8q|QiU/R8\|G\WpC`-s?=)\fbtNc&=/a3a)r7xbRI]Vl)r<%PTriJ3pGpl_/B6!8pe\btzx `~R! r3.0#lHRE+^Gro0[cjsban'vZ#j7,?I/tHk{s=TFJ:H?~=]`O*~3ZX`qik`b:.gVIc-[$t/e ZrQsWJ >|l^I_[pbsIqwoz.WGA]<D Bytes: 6123 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote at 21:46 this Tuesday (GMT): > On 2024-06-04, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: >> On 2024-06-03 10:33 p.m., rbowman wrote: >>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 20:42:36 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>> >>>> Yep, following exact instructions to do the things that I intend to do >>>> with a Linux distribution makes me a moron. It only failed because I >>>> farted while doing it or something. Perhaps I didn't type the commands >>>> fast enough or didn't press Enter at the exact time the planets aligned. >>>> It's not Linux, it's never Linux. Some thing or body else is always at >>>> fault. >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UnPzp2lmNk >>> >>> Why's everybody always picking on me? >> >> I'm not even complaining, I'm used to this behaviour from the Linux >> faithful. Whenever someone points out one of Linux's flaws or is soured >> on using it because of the rotten experience it provides them, the lot >> of you jump on anyone stating the obvious like flies on a turd. Any time >> anyone shows Linux to be bad in one way or another, this is the only >> response you can provide: > > I've allowed (and stated many times) that Linux is probably not a good > choice for game players. I don't play games in Linux, therefore I don't have > the problems you seem to have. It's not rocket science, most video games are > made for the Windows platform. Any Linux Windows game playing solution is > going to be challenging. True, but Steam has made some effort in that department. >> 1) Not me, never! >> 2) You must have done it wrong! > > I don't have problems with Linux. Period. But I don't say you've done > something wrong — except (maybe) by picking a new distribution that seems to > be poorly supported and has a small user base. > >> And then, when it is shown that Linux is the problem beyond a shadow of >> a doubt, and the person showing it is only looking for a bug to be fixed >> or for some problem to be corrected, you all disappear. It's the same >> thing here as it is on Linux forums on the web. Every so often, someone >> will "help" by asking the person to execute some obscure command which >> ends up doing nothing but making the problem worse. > > We "disappear" by responding to you...? Okay, whatever. My "help" was the > suggestion that you find an older, better supported distribution. But I'm > not going to be that helpful to you because I don't play Windows video games > on Linux. Again, I suggest that people who want to play Windows video games > stick with Windows for their OS. How is this "disappearing?" With my limited > knowleged of Windows game playing on Linux, this is the best advice I can > give. > >> But you're right. Facing serious problems on day _one_ is a lot better >> than having to learn something awful like sfc /scannow or dism /online >> /cleanup-image /scanhealth whenever problems emerge. Only in the perfect >> world of Linux where commands like "tcpdump -A -s 10240 'tcp port 80 and >> (((ip[2:2] - ((ip[0]&0xf)<<2)) - ((tcp[12]&0xf0)>>2)) != 0)' | egrep >> --line-buffered "^........(GET |HTTP\/|POST |HEAD )|^[A-Za-z0-9-]+: " | >> sed -r 's/^........(GET |HTTP\/|POST |HEAD )/\n\1/g'" are the norm can >> anyone be happy. Why are you using egrep? The sed part of the pipeline also seems a bit iffy.. > Windows has serious problems. Especially with updating. You know that, we > all know that. It's also spyware and it's getting worse by the day. > > I'll say it one more time. If your goal is to play Windows video games, > stick with Windows. For those of use who DON'T play Windows video games, and > could care less about the bloated Microcrap Office Suite, Linux works well. > I simply DO NOT have problems with Linux. Period. Don't forget Adobe. -- user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom