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Subject: Re: $19 billion on unplayed games
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:00:05 -0000 (UTC)
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Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote at 02:47 this Sunday (GMT):
> On 6/27/2024 9:39 AM, Xocyll wrote:
>> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
>> say:
>> 
>>>
>>> You've probably read -or at least heard mentioned- the news story that
>>> Steam users have spent $19 billion USD on games they've never played.*
>>> (If so, you've probably also heard some wag jokingly claim, "Yeah,
>>> well, I'm probably responsible for $1 billion of that"**.) You may
>>> even have heard counters to this estimate, calling it wildly
>>> inaccurate (something I myself tend to agree with).
>> 
>> Hadn't but I doubt the number is anywhere near accurate.
>> 
>> Steam only counts playtime If and only IF you started the game through
>> steam.
>> 
>> Star Trek Online for instance was sold as a game direct from the company
>> first, then downloadable through arc (still is) and then through steam.
>> 
>> You can start it without steam knowing.
>> 
>> It says 146.2 hrs for a game I've played near daily for over a decade,
>> because I only ever started it through steam if I was make a game
>> currency purchase.
>> 
>> The couple years of play of Fallout4, according to steam amounts to 11
>> minutes.
>> 
>> Path of Exile, another heavily played one, no time at all.
>> 
>> Warframe, haven't played it years but played it heavily for a while,
>> steam says 6 minutes.
>> 
>> So yeah, not trusting "Valve Math", since it apparently assumes no one
>> can live without steam or would start a game any other way.
>> 
>> And that's not even counting the value of the freebies that we
>> "purchased" for nothing - how are they being counted, as a zero value
>> sale, or regular price - betting it's regular price.
>> 
>
> Oh yeah, I've definitely got some I haven't played according to Steam 
> but most definitely did.
>
> I've got a lot of the opposite too, where I just left a game running 
> even overnight because it was a pain to exit and/or start it and didn't 
> become unstable.  Or in the case of the DS series my hours are probably 
> wildly exaggerated as I often think I closed it, but that just returned 
> it to the title screen, as you can't just exit game (well Alt-F4 works 
> but has some likelihood of not saving your progress)


Technically, I have like 0.2 hours on Hypnospace Outlaw because it only
started if I ran the exe directly through wine.. I still beat it in 2
days tho :P (great game)

my most played is tf2, then sonic adventure 2
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