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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.szaf.org!inka.de!mips.inka.de!.POSTED.localhost!not-for-mail From: Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Re: Official German spelling update Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:54:05 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <slrnv9avit.31hl.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> References: <slrnv8raos.7eh.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> <slrnv95gaj.17f0.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> <87o77158s5.fsf@parhasard.net> <slrnv960kk.1ch5.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> <v70abv$40o6$1@dont-email.me> <Vielen-20240714122028@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <pp789jppco8vfh98d2ik8tkddta7q108es@4ax.com> <v73nfh$q2r6$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:54:05 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: lorvorc.mips.inka.de; posting-host="localhost:::1"; logging-data="99894"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@mips.inka.de" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD) Bytes: 1760 Lines: 17 On 2024-07-15, Antonio Marques <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote: > I'd never thought of _vielen_ as a singular, hence my request. > > It still sounds odd to me. Christian says Dank is to be read as a mass > noun, but I can't quite make that work. > > I'm also a bit puzzled that german children won't instinctively interpret > vielen as a plural. How so? There's no preceding determiner, so strong declension applies. If "vielen" was plural, it would have to be dative. Also, I think "Dank" simply cannot be plural without an ending like -e, -er, -en, or -s. And if it was a dative plural noun, it would have to terminate in -n or -s as a further constraint. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de