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From: Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de>
Newsgroups: sci.lang,alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 13:19:42 -0000 (UTC)
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On 2024-07-26, Helmut Richter <hr.usenet@email.de> wrote:

> I am very skeptical about "fully precise" transcriptions. In every 
> language I know, the range of pronunciations that native speakers produce 
> and that other native speakers perceive as distinct and free from dialect 
> is much broader than a fully precise transcription would specify.

Related:
"Annals of intervocalic coronal reduction"
https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=65139

Mark Liberman has recently been hammering home the point that English
words in fluent speech are frequently not pronounced as you would
think they are.

-- 
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber                          naddy@mips.inka.de