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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gemini Subject: Re: hamradio/satellite Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 22:46:22 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <slrnvalflu.28a.dan@djph.net> References: <v7bm3n$l9k4$2@matrix.hispagatos.org> <slrnv9j4ok.nch.dan@djph.net> <1722360409.bystand@zzo38computer.org> Injection-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2024 00:46:23 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0454582062edbc0e24421d43e8d918e0"; logging-data="1889272"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+YFkj03rVgCVMGht91sNDfPacoCSVD8i0=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:RPyFYMyzBaYvYE5QUMDQTcVCQHE= Bytes: 2842 On 2024-07-30, news@zzo38computer.org.invalid wrote: > Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote: >> >> >> On 2024-07-18, rek2 hispagatos wrote: >> > >> > Hello anyone has any active/updated info on radio/satellite on gemini? >> >> It'd be questionable at best (at least in the US), due to the integral >> encryption. > > [...] > > If you are concerned about if the file is correct, one possibility is that > you can use the cryptographic hash of the file when accessing it to check > that it is correct (e.g. the "hashed:" scheme that I had written about, or > you can just do it manually instead if you prefer). (I don't know if this > prohibition of the "encryption" is including cryptographic hashes, but it > is not significant to this since the hash does not need to be sent to the > server in order to use it.) The specific (US FCC) rule is that an amateur radio operator is prohibited from transmitting a message in such a way that the intended meaning is obscured. So a checksum / optional file hash (digital signature, etc.) is fine by the rule, since the "encoded data" is merely a way to validate a previously sent plaintext message made it across the network as you intended. There's no "obscured meaning" if you've got a HTTP server accessible via radio that includes a listing of "file:checksum" pairs, providing that you indicate what the checksums are (e.g. MD5, CRC32, etc.) Likewise a new code for CW transmissions, general data transfer, etc. is perfectly fine, PROVIDED THAT the method of encoding/decoding is public knowledge before you start using it. There are some caveats to what constitutes "public knowledge", but I think they're to the effect of "a provably dated article in your club's newsletter" (or post-dated mail, etc.). -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860