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From: Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Godfather of AI Just Won a Nobel. He Has Been Warning the
 Machines Could Take Over the World.
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:05:52 -0000 (UTC)
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On 2024-10-12, kazu <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:
> Borax Man wrote:
>> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
>> On 2024-10-12, kazu <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:
>>> John Smyth wrote:
>>>> 'A Godfather of AI Just Won a Nobel. He Has Been Warning the Machines
>>>> Could Take Over the World.'
>>>>
>>>> <https://archive.is/VuJ4L#selection-2403.0-2597.172>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 'The newly minted Nobel laureate Geoffrey Hinton has a message about the
>>>> artificial-intelligence systems he helped create: get more serious about
>>>> safety or they could endanger humanity.
>>>
>>>
>>> i am 50-50 on the view that AI will pose a danger to humanity.
>>>
>>> both sides have decent arguments and i cant make up my mind.
>> 
>> I don't think AI will take over, as it is not really capable of
>> out-of-band thinking.  AI cannot solve a problem which hasn't been
>> defined.  For example, you can get AI to perhaps streamline a process or
>> design, make it more efficient, but it won't come to the realisation
>> that the thing you are trying to do, may not be necessary after all.  So
>> AI would have to do something it is not capable of at the moment, coming
>> to new realisations and acting on that information.
>> 
>> The threat from AI I think is more how we act.  I see a danger where we
>> trust AI, and treat it like it is a superintelligence, and we use it as
>> a crutch to make desicions, which turn out to be poor, suboptimal
>> decisions.
>> 
>
> current models may not be able to, but there is an exponential 
> curve we are riding.

What we have seen is better models because they have more data.  But
there is a leap to be made to get them to think out of band.  This is a
very different type of program, and now where I think the A.I. path is
leading to at the moment.

Machines can't think, and programs can't think.