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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer Subject: Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 15:20:25 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: <slrnvlr8hp.49d.jj@iridium.wf32df> References: <vh9vgr$5bb$1@dont-email.me> <vj91a1$t8pn$1@dont-email.me> <vja9r8$14k6s$1@dont-email.me> <vjbiop$1f2e5$1@dont-email.me> <vjd3jg$1od5c$3@dont-email.me> <slrnvlk56u.2qa.jj@iridium.wf32df> <675a218f$0$12912$426a34cc@news.free.fr> <slrnvlp50u.29n.jj@iridium.wf32df> <vjib38$3kiac$2@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 16:20:25 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="56ec573788694dfabfdab3e976c61f79"; logging-data="57416"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/k/SSKpSBCDoYqFZIDle7LMSJEhGUgA+k=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:5TZA24SMO9H+kSXRATxEmm3/4U4= Bytes: 2254 On 2024-12-13, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:07:58 -0000 (UTC), Jim Jackson wrote: > >> On 2024-12-11, Nicolas George <nicolas$george@salle-s.org> wrote: >>> >>> Jim Jackson , dans le message <slrnvlk56u.2qa.jj@iridium.wf32df>, a >>> ??crit??: >>>> >>>> My God, how did we all manage running services before systemd came >>>> along? >>> >>> Badly, with services that have crashed and nobody noticed for weeks. >> >> People keep saying that. But in my experience services were run as >> efficiently as they seem to be run today. Perhaps the team I worked in >> knew what it was doing :-) > > How many custom services were you running on a single machine, just out of > curiosity? What do you mean by custom? There were database services, web-based services, information servers other than web all running on 2 big servers. The infrastructure services (file servers, DNS, NTP, DHCP, boot servers, automatic backup etc etc) were split between 2 servers with backup and failover. not sure how you'd classify our mail service, as infrastructure or custom, but it was far from bog-standard.