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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer Subject: Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 23:07:37 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 12 Message-ID: <slrnvm1clp.adn.jj@iridium.wf32df> References: <vh9vgr$5bb$1@dont-email.me> <jHw3P.41603$vLg2.41154@fx17.iad> <vimf13$3uoji$1@dont-email.me> <vinp86$avd9$1@dont-email.me> <vip46l$omqu$1@dont-email.me> <vir23n$17csf$5@dont-email.me> <virnn2$1g9ja$1@dont-email.me> <vit3dg$1quau$1@dont-email.me> <slrnvleknf.apv.jj@iridium.wf32df> <wwvfrmv3os3.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <vj91a1$t8pn$1@dont-email.me> <vja9r8$14k6s$1@dont-email.me> <vjbiop$1f2e5$1@dont-email.me> <vjd3jg$1od5c$3@dont-email.me> <vje7fb$21u8i$1@dont-email.me> <vjfo8l$2vfl9$3@dont-email.me> <vjh2rr$3c08v$1@dont-email.me> <20241213074207.00004176@gmail.com> <vjind8$3mkah$2@dont-email.me> <20241216075519.00002023@gmail.com> <vjq1o6$19jdn$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 00:07:38 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="87f5ebded9a06504fdf176fd5756243f"; logging-data="1411722"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+mjIPvnuq3ZXP5IL2eptlQv+HShTIS2Fo=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:n7yamCTDah9F8iiI70HhA4Z7vBg= Bytes: 2114 On 2024-12-16, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 07:55:19 -0800, John Ames wrote: > >> The fact that people are free to make stupid choices does not mean that >> other people aren't allowed to call out stupidity where they see it. > > Notice that all the complaints seem to go in one direction, not the other? > We only see systemd-haters complaining about those using it, you don???t see > systemd users complaining about those who don???t? No. But I think some of us get a bit pissed at some people making out that previous inits were (almost) unworkable - which is palpably false.