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From: Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net>
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On 2025-01-02, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> On 1/1/25 1:20 PM, Joel wrote:
>> Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 11:44:29 -0500, -hh wrote:
>>>
>>>> [quote]
>>>> Unfortunately, the only way that this point actually becomes
>>>> "reasonable" is by finally admitting that many/most Linux fanboys are
>>>> chronic consummate cheapskates.
>>>> [/quote]
>>>
>>> You omit that many/most commercial software packages are
>>> EXTORTIONATE in that they capture users via proprietary
>>> formats and subscription accounts.  The only difference
>>> between them and the gangsters of old are the machine
>>> guns.
>>>
>>> I can pay $100 for a 1/2" power drill and I can expect it
>>> to last 25-50 years or more.  (I inherited a power drill
>>>from my grandfather that is almost 70 years old.  The
>>> only problem is a loose connection in the power cable
>>> that can be easily fixed.)
>>>
>>> That same $100 won't even buy a 1 month subscription
>>> for a desktop software package.
>>>
>>> The situation is borderline criminality.
>>>
>>> Both software and information want to be free (as in
>>> "freedom" and not "beer").  We are seeing this happen.
>>> Commercial software on the desktop is an endangered species.
>>>
>>> I can understand the airline industry paying big bucks
>>> for flight reservation software, or the nuclear power industry
>>> paying big bucks for control software, but a desktop spreadsheet
>>> or word processor is trivial and should cost nothing.
>>>
>>> Everything done on the desktop has been standardized decades
>>> ago.  There is no need for commercial software in this arena.
>> 
>> 
>> Clearly you're just ranting nonsense,
>
> Which is par for the course for Feeb.
>
> For example, good luck finding a 1/2" power drill for sale new today for 
> just $100 which will last for even 10 years of use, let alone his 
> "25-50" claim:  the days of bulletproof all metal body Craftsman or 
> Black & Decker power tools are long since gone.

Out of stock but not too much higher in price:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-5-5-Amp-Corded-1-2-in-Variable-Speed-Hole-Shooter-Magnum-Drill-Driver-0234-6/100180020

I invested in one of those (or as close to that model as I can
see from the page) in 1991 or 1992.  A spare set of brushes has
yet to be needed.  It's strong enough to cause substantial wrist
discomfort if held less tightly enough than some use cases
deserve.  The side handle is needed in some cases.

Oh, I did have to replace the power cord once, but it was
relatively inexpensive.  It uses an interesting 3-conductor
twist-lock connector.

-- 
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)