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From: Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 13:46:30 -0000 (UTC)
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On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 09:00:04 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>     So, for now, Manjaro and some Fedora. No one has yet made a clean
>>>     Just Works port of Fedora for the Pi-5 alas ... something's WEIRD
>>>     about that unit. They should drop it and make a "Pi4-Ultra" instead
>>>     with a peppier version of that chip.
 
 On 1/11/25 2:50 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> There's a new Pi 5 version with 16GB of RAM. It's not clear what the use
>> case is. Windows on ARM?

I am glad I did not get a Pi-5. I have had enough problems getting
the GUI to start up at boot time with my Pi-4B that I decided to just
run it in headless server mode.

The one thing I was missing on Pi-4 was a second ethernet port so I
could use it as a firewall/edge router with room for all the monitoring
capabilities I could dream up to implement with PCAP.

Dongle-attached extra ethernet ports are a bit unstable in my
experience. Often have spotty Linux driver support, often get
redesigned with a different ethernet chip with no visible/noticeable
change in product name or packaging. Being on an ARM system makes the
problems stemming from this several steps worse.

On 2025-01-12, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>    There's clearly something very convoluted about the
>    way the CPU and maybe some peripherial chips start
>    up on the Pi5. You could run many Linux distros on
>    Pi's up thru the Pi4. Then ... the factory Deb deriv
>    is pretty much IT unless you wanna suffer a lot.
>
>    If you've ever watched a Pi update, note ALL the
>    damned messages about special fix-ups and kernel
>    hacks - I mean there's LOTS of them. The BCM2712
>    do NOT boot smooth like earlier versions. I'll
>    still say the Pi3s were the "most generally useful".
>
>    As for the 16gb ... well, if it's not TOO much more
>    expensive, may as well have it. However 4gb has
>    always been more than enough for anything I've
>    wanted to do with a Pi.

Indeed, this sounds like a long-term support nightmare.
Why did Broadcom do that? Or did SONY screw up in their specifications?