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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux.mint Subject: Re: smart plugs??? Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2025 15:12:43 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <slrnvonh7b.1a9s7.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> References: <vm8nvf$312bv$1@dont-email.me> <vmatqg$3gi7d$1@dont-email.me> <vmb1c7$3grs4$1@dont-email.me> <vme1k3$4c4v$2@dont-email.me> <vmf37b$cr46$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2025 16:12:43 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fb8afc64128fbcfd5b026b62c44c66bb"; logging-data="964883"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/x6ezWHpzb9ZhHZkx7H9xD1a/VopKrAFw=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:w+6WEOn28jUZ1JnNOlc+qn+s/N4= Bytes: 2353 On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 16:48:03 +0000, Mike Scott wrote: >> ... I'm looking at probably 3kW at 240V to run a heater. >> >> The power level is just a bit outside my comfort zone for home >> construction ... On 2025-01-18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > I should say it is. It’s well beyond the rating for a typical household > outlet. Whatever it is, I imagine you’re going to need professional > electrician help to set it up. If I remember correctly, US home outlets are 120V 15A. So 1800W max. EU home outlets are 230V 10A, so 2300W max. UK home outlets are 230V 27A, so 6.2kW max. This is why electric tea kettles work so well in the UK. And if I remember, there is a fuse in the PLUG, so an appliance can have a cord with a smaller fuse if it doesn't need the full power. This is why the UK plugs are so massively huge. But even in the US, a 20A outlet is not unusual. It does require a heavier wire gauge in the walls. And 240V with amperages from 10A to 50A is common for washing machines, laundry dryers, electric stoves and EV chargers. Unfortunately, the plugs allowed for them are a motley collection of incompatible versions. I wish they would allow the EU Schuko for 10A, and the UK socket for up to 30A.