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From: Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2025 21:48:31 -0000 (UTC)
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On 2025-02-22, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 2/22/2025 12:23 PM, Adison Vohn Caterson wrote:
>> On 2025-02-22, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Joel wrote:
>>>>> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (snip lies)
>>>>>
>>>>> Way to miss Lawrence's point, goofball,
>>>>
>>>> Any hyperbole or unfairness from Linux advocates pales in comparison
>>>> to the avalanche of idiocy and lies from the haters.  Documented ad
>>>> nauseum, in here.
>>>
>>>
>>> The only reason I promoted Win7 here, in the past, was because at the
>>> time it really did represent something new and improved in computing.
>>> Today, Linux is hands-down the winner.
>> 
>> Linux is the winner?
>> At what?
>> 
>> I run Linux on this Thinkpad Yoga 14 because Windows 11 won't run on it,
>> and Windows 10 is dead soon. So in that case Linux is better.
>> This laptop can be folded into a tablet, and I can tell you that under
>> Win 10, worked a charm. Under Linux, screen orientation doesn't work,
>> virtual keyboard doesn't work. I only get a virtual keyboard at the
>> logon screen.
>> 
>> On a 15" Alienware laptop, it's had Windows 11 on it for 3+ years.
>> Runs great, has never blue screened, locked up, refused to do my
>> bidding. Some Windows updates have broken the Dell Support App and the
>> Alienware Command Center, but a fix usually comes from MS or Dell, or a
>> Revo uninstall/reinstall fixes it. I wouldn't even bother putting Linux
>> on the Alienware, as I doubt selecting which video card I want is an
>> option under Linux, and I doubt fan control would be as easy under Linux
>> as it is with Windows 11.
>> 
>> Windows 11 is a computing tool.
>> Linux is a computing tool.
>> 
>> The choices being available is the winner.
>> 
>
> Thinkpad Yoga 14   $1100     Reviewed February 11, 2015
>
> 1TB hard drive with an extra 16GB of solid-state cache... <=== boo and/or hiss (until the cache fails)
>
> Core i5-4210U   2C 4T 15W 2.7GHz  4th gen Haswell
> HD Graphics 4400    ~WDDM 2.0 or so
> 8GB of RAM
> No mention of TPM, Secure Boot, UEFI

This Yoga is

CPU:
  Info: dual core model: Intel Core i5-6200U bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache:
    L2: 512 KiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 425 min/max: 400/2800 cores: 1: 500 2: 400 3: 400 4: 400
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] driver: i915 v: kernel
  Device-2: NVIDIA GM108M [GeForce 940M] driver: nvidia v: 570.86.16
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.1 driver:
    X: loaded: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915
    resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 9.9 GiB (4.2%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: LITE-ON model: LCH-256V2S size: 238.47 GiB
Info:
  Processes: 186 Uptime: 0h 37m Memory: available: 7.65 GiB
  used: 1.52 GiB (19.9%) Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.27
 UEFI: LENOVO v: R05ET36W (1.14) date: 10/12/2015

> Win11 can be installed via Rufus-prepared USB stick. In
> the same way my 4930K is currently running Windows 11.
> Got there, using a Rufus.ie web site USB stick program.
> Which can make a USB stick for a Linux ISO, or for a Windows ISO.
> Uses SysLinux boot materials to make the stick boot.
>
> If it really has a "hard drive" in it today, it would be
> as slow as molasses at absolute zero, at boot time. Just deleting
> the contents of the LCU folder (Last Cumulative Update), took
> me ten minutes yesterday (my 1TB hard drive setup for commiserating
> with HDD users). For one folder delete. You would want an SSD in
> place of the hard drive, to improve the situation a bit.
>
> You can get a 2.5" SSD, a Lexar, for around CDN $40 a piece.
> That's what I use for scratch installs here. 256GB.
>
> I noticed the slow NTFS HDD delete issue, on the Insider at first.
> That the delete time of NTFS, it was taking a lot longer to delete.
> Turning off Windows Defender didn't help. Even an SSD only helps a bit,
> but every little bit counts at a time like that.
>
>    Paul


I'm going to use the laptop to learn Linux inside out ;)
Or just learn to use it.

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